I have a stines steel line from the furling reefing and it need to be connected to the braded rope on the end. I want ot brade rope into the S/S line. I know it can be done - my topping lift has S/S line and it braded into the rope. What is the correct procedure? Thanks
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Buy a copy of "The Rigger's Apprentice" by Brion Toss. half.com probably has a good discount on that book. The process is too lengthy to describe on an e-mail posting. Of course, you could just pay a rigger $25 or so to do it for you.
Buy a copy of "The Rigger's Apprentice" by Brion Toss. half.com probably has a good discount on that book. The process is too lengthy to describe on an e-mail posting. Of course, you could just pay a rigger $25 or so to do it for you.
A series of photos is needed too.
Try some google searches or just pick up the phone. Oh, call the West Marine rigging shop. They do good work.
Try some google searches or just pick up the phone. Oh, call the West Marine rigging shop. They do good work.
Viktor, I don't think that is an option..
I have never heard of a way to splice S.S. cable to braided line. It is possible to splice it into 3 strand. Have you concidered all braided line without the S.S.? r.w.landau
I have never heard of a way to splice S.S. cable to braided line. It is possible to splice it into 3 strand. Have you concidered all braided line without the S.S.? r.w.landau
Fred,
They are not spliced they are thimbled and eye splice. They are not braided into each other. r.w.landau
They are not spliced they are thimbled and eye splice. They are not braided into each other. r.w.landau
By golly you're right RW.
OK, turn to the previous page. Lower right. Double braid polyester to wire. No thimble. This is so much fun.
Don't look at the price Viktor.
OK, turn to the previous page. Lower right. Double braid polyester to wire. No thimble. This is so much fun.
Don't look at the price Viktor.
I am amazed and need to learn to do this ..
Thanks Fred, This, is fun. It is on page 1011, lower right. Price is why I learn to do this stuff! $45.99 is just the labor price! Actually I like to learn this stuff to help the people in the area that need things fixed on their boats. I can not fathom how this is done. I have twisted spliced, double braided spliced, wire to twisted spliced but never ever heard of wire to double braid splice. I do still think that all line is an alternative. r.w.landau
Thanks Fred, This, is fun. It is on page 1011, lower right. Price is why I learn to do this stuff! $45.99 is just the labor price! Actually I like to learn this stuff to help the people in the area that need things fixed on their boats. I can not fathom how this is done. I have twisted spliced, double braided spliced, wire to twisted spliced but never ever heard of wire to double braid splice. I do still think that all line is an alternative. r.w.landau
Oh, I'm NOT saying I would USE IT.
I use just rope. Alan is promoting thin high strength rope for halyards and such. Wish I'd heard about it before I replaced my running rigging. I tried to follow a picture essay on that wire to rope splice once. Forget it. That's for pro's
I use just rope. Alan is promoting thin high strength rope for halyards and such. Wish I'd heard about it before I replaced my running rigging. I tried to follow a picture essay on that wire to rope splice once. Forget it. That's for pro's
Oops Sorry, yes, he's a regular here.
Sorry, thought you knew. He also installed a really cool keel on his 355.
Sorry, thought you knew. He also installed a really cool keel on his 355.
Wire to Rope halyards..WM way too expensive
Try defender or APS for much better deals on pre-spliced wire to rope halyards. http://www.defender.com/category.jsp?path=-1|118&id=75227&start=21&results=9&sort=products http://www.apsltd.com/Tree/d3000/e874.asp While you're at aps site take a look at their splicing services page and learn quite a bit. Note they charge $60 for a wire to rope splice. http://www.apsltd.com/Tree/d3000/e910.asp
Try defender or APS for much better deals on pre-spliced wire to rope halyards. http://www.defender.com/category.jsp?path=-1|118&id=75227&start=21&results=9&sort=products http://www.apsltd.com/Tree/d3000/e874.asp While you're at aps site take a look at their splicing services page and learn quite a bit. Note they charge $60 for a wire to rope splice. http://www.apsltd.com/Tree/d3000/e910.asp
Wire to rope splice
From Practical Sailor - snip--- Two of the books containing instructions are: Practical Knots & Ropework, by Percy W. Blandford (Tab Books, Inc, Blue Ridge Summit, PA 17214), and The Ditty Bag Book, by Frank Rosenow (Sail Books, 34 Commercial Wharf, Boston, MA 02110). snip--- Here's one way to splice, borrowed from the link below. If you can visualize it, it should work. snip--- 2) WIRE TO ROPE (double braid) SPLICE - Basically, this is splicing the rope core to the wire, then over and beyond that with the rope cover to the wire. You will need a special fid, or marlinspike, to open the wire for tucking the strands, and plastic rigging tape to tape the rope and wire. It would be most helpful if you know how to splice 3-strand rope, since the tucking technique is the same, and practicing on just rope will give you the experience you need to visualize the splice as you go up the wire. Read all instructions through completely before starting to help you visualize each step. When the splice is complete, you will have a spliced length that will have: approximately two (2) feet of double braid line with a tapered wire core inside. Approximately six to eight inches of rope core spliced into the wire, covered by intact rope cover. A final length of wire with the rope cover spliced into it for another six to eight inches up the wire. FIRST: Taper the wire: For one (1) foot, unlay strands exposing the core wire. Alternating strands, CUT: * 1 strand off at one (1) foot * 1 strand off four (4) inches higher * 1 strand off at the next 4” higher * 1 strand off at the next 4” higher until all strands are cut – you will have only the center extending down alone for one (1) foot below rest of wire strands. NOTE: you could make the strand cuts every three (3) inches, but the splice will be a bit tighter and lumpier along this length of tapered wire. Starting two (2) inches up from the last cut wire strand, tape the wire tightly all the way down to the end. This taped, tapered portion of the wire will stay inside the splice like that forever. SECOND: Rope. * Expose the core and cut off approximately eight (8) inches. * Measure another eight (8) inches of core and put a piece of tape around. Unravel the eight (8) inches of exposed core below the tape. Thread the taped, tapered wire into the core. * Count off core strands, divide by three (3), and tape each bundle neatly. SPLICING WITH THE LAY: * Four (4) full tucks. Each bundle under two (2) strands of wire – the same bundle will tuck under the same wire strand up the line. * After four (4) tucks, taper: cut off one strand bundle, tuck up the rest. Cut off next strand bundle, tuck up the rest, until taper done. * When core splice is finished, milk the cover over the core/wire splice. You’ll have approximately eight (8) inch overlap. Tape the cover at the core/wire end, and splice the cover to the wire the same way the core was done (i.e., four (4) full tucks, then taper.) You now have your basic wire to rope splice. snip-- Sail On... Terry
From Practical Sailor - snip--- Two of the books containing instructions are: Practical Knots & Ropework, by Percy W. Blandford (Tab Books, Inc, Blue Ridge Summit, PA 17214), and The Ditty Bag Book, by Frank Rosenow (Sail Books, 34 Commercial Wharf, Boston, MA 02110). snip--- Here's one way to splice, borrowed from the link below. If you can visualize it, it should work. snip--- 2) WIRE TO ROPE (double braid) SPLICE - Basically, this is splicing the rope core to the wire, then over and beyond that with the rope cover to the wire. You will need a special fid, or marlinspike, to open the wire for tucking the strands, and plastic rigging tape to tape the rope and wire. It would be most helpful if you know how to splice 3-strand rope, since the tucking technique is the same, and practicing on just rope will give you the experience you need to visualize the splice as you go up the wire. Read all instructions through completely before starting to help you visualize each step. When the splice is complete, you will have a spliced length that will have: approximately two (2) feet of double braid line with a tapered wire core inside. Approximately six to eight inches of rope core spliced into the wire, covered by intact rope cover. A final length of wire with the rope cover spliced into it for another six to eight inches up the wire. FIRST: Taper the wire: For one (1) foot, unlay strands exposing the core wire. Alternating strands, CUT: * 1 strand off at one (1) foot * 1 strand off four (4) inches higher * 1 strand off at the next 4” higher * 1 strand off at the next 4” higher until all strands are cut – you will have only the center extending down alone for one (1) foot below rest of wire strands. NOTE: you could make the strand cuts every three (3) inches, but the splice will be a bit tighter and lumpier along this length of tapered wire. Starting two (2) inches up from the last cut wire strand, tape the wire tightly all the way down to the end. This taped, tapered portion of the wire will stay inside the splice like that forever. SECOND: Rope. * Expose the core and cut off approximately eight (8) inches. * Measure another eight (8) inches of core and put a piece of tape around. Unravel the eight (8) inches of exposed core below the tape. Thread the taped, tapered wire into the core. * Count off core strands, divide by three (3), and tape each bundle neatly. SPLICING WITH THE LAY: * Four (4) full tucks. Each bundle under two (2) strands of wire – the same bundle will tuck under the same wire strand up the line. * After four (4) tucks, taper: cut off one strand bundle, tuck up the rest. Cut off next strand bundle, tuck up the rest, until taper done. * When core splice is finished, milk the cover over the core/wire splice. You’ll have approximately eight (8) inch overlap. Tape the cover at the core/wire end, and splice the cover to the wire the same way the core was done (i.e., four (4) full tucks, then taper.) You now have your basic wire to rope splice. snip-- Sail On... Terry
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