How much can our Booms lift???????

NYSail

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Jan 6, 2006
3,136
Beneteau 423 Mt. Sinai, NY
Hello All,

Just a question to all you engineers here. I know our booms have a lot of strength due to the engineered rigging of the spar and I do know I have stood / hung on it with not a worry (190 lbs). However I have a 350 lbs generator that I had the yard crane remove this year that I would like to eventually put back in myself. Many people have told me that my boom would have no issue with the weight and by having an appropriate block and tackle along with chain to lift so no stretch would be a piece of cake. Basically move the boom over the dock, attach and lift generator, swing over cockpit and lower into lazerrete.

Seems simple enough but would hate to see the mast come down or damage occur..........

Thanks.....

Greg
 
Jan 11, 2014
12,703
Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
I used the boom to lift my Yanmar diesel, not an issue. Support the boom by attaching the halyard to the aft end. This helps to take the load off of the gooseneck. l use a block and tackle to lift the generator. You'll want at least a 6:1 purchase, even with the that there will be a significant load on the tackle, you'll need around 50-60 lbs of pressure to lift the generator. A come along might also work.
 
Feb 17, 2006
5,274
Lancer 27PS MCB Camp Pendleton KF6BL
Well it would depend on the support offered by the sail/halyard, or by the topping lift hardware. One test you can do is to apply your body weight in a controlled test. If it can support you then it should be able to support a generator of lesser weight. Booms have been known to help pull people out of the water.
 

capta

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Jun 4, 2009
4,905
Pearson 530 Admiralty Bay, Bequia SVG
I'd check the state of your topping lift as that is what would be bearing the loard. If you use a vang instead, you might want to run a halyard to the boom's end for added support.
 

Mr Fox

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Aug 31, 2017
204
Marshall 22 Portland, ME
I think 350 will absolutely ok, from what I can see online your boat is not a fractional rig (is that right?) so the mast has good support for a non-vertical mast load going aft. As others suggested inspect your lines, and run the halyard to the booms end; if there were to be a failure at a line/shackle or splice point you will have a backup (topping lift and halyard assuming you have a topping lift).

Hopefully someone with your model boat will chime in here though as it's going to be specific to your boat model, but given the size of your boat 350 seems totally safe. People use slings from the end of the boom to pick up MOBs who can weigh 300 lbs when wet, and this is under duress.

If you have a solid vang you will want to make sure it will allow for enough lift of the boom for the generator to clear whatever it needs to in order to swing to the cockpit. Easier to detach it before you lift up the genny.
 
Sep 30, 2013
3,582
1988 Catalina 22 North Florida
We hoisted a Beta 14 diesel (200 lbs) into our Albin Vega 27 using the boom and a come-along. I'm sure the boom on your 42' mega yacht is waaaay stronger than ours!
 
Jan 5, 2017
2,343
Beneteau First 38 Lyall Harbour Saturna Island
Pulled the motor out of a Fast Passage 39 (Perkins 4-108 @ 520lb.) using the boom. Had the main halyard supporting the boom at the come-a-long attachment point.
 
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DArcy

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Feb 11, 2017
1,767
Islander Freeport 36 Ottawa
It looks like the Beneteau 423 has mid boom sheeting with a 4:1 reduction then running to a winch. You can easily put more than 350 lbs force on the boom with that setup so you should be able to lift the generator with no concern for the boom. Fixing the main halyard to the boom near the lift point is a good way to minimize the load on the boom. Don't trust a topping lift of rigid vang to take the load.
 
Mar 29, 2017
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Hunter 30t 9805 littlecreek
Run multiple if not all halyards to evenly spaced distances throughout boom length if you have fractional rig or spinnaker topping lift will help load mast up randomly to carry load.
 
Sep 30, 2013
3,582
1988 Catalina 22 North Florida
Fixing the main halyard to the boom near the lift point is a good way to minimize the load on the boom.
Right. It's not really the boom at all that's holding up the load. It's the masthead, via the halyard. All the boom is doing is holding the load steady, at a predetermined distance from the mast.

Speaking of which, it was necessary for us to do the engine install in two phases: first hoist it off the trailer it was on, then up and over the coaming, and set it down in the cockpit. Then re-rig the halyard and the comealong closer to the mast. Then hoist it again (controlling the motor as it moved forward) and lower it through the companionway.

It's a little spooky, but it's really not hard. I was able to pull it off with only my wife helping me.

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NYSail

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Jan 6, 2006
3,136
Beneteau 423 Mt. Sinai, NY
Thanks for all the input..... and yes I agree to put my halyard where the lifting point on the boom will be. Along with the topping lift looks to be fine and have seen it done. Have a mast head rig..... not fractional so good support from above. I just worried about the load pressures from the boom over the side to lift generator off dock. Just love to run things by the group to see all opinions of this practice.... will post photos when I get to that point!

Again thanks!

Greg
 
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Jan 11, 2014
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Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
Thanks for all the input..... and yes I agree to put my halyard where the lifting point on the boom will be. Along with the topping lift looks to be fine and have seen it done. Have a mast head rig..... not fractional so good support from above. I just worried about the load pressures from the boom over the side to lift generator off dock. Just love to run things by the group to see all opinions of this practice.... will post photos when I get to that point!

Again thanks!

Greg
The load will be the same regardless of whether the boom is over the dock or over the cockpit. However, hanging 350 lbs off the boom a few feet from the boat will cause the boat to heel.
 
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NYSail

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Jan 6, 2006
3,136
Beneteau 423 Mt. Sinai, NY
The load will be the same regardless of whether the boom is over the dock or over the cockpit. However, hanging 350 lbs off the boom a few feet from the boat will cause the boat to heel.
Ill put the beer on the opposite side while I'm lifting!:D