Hood SeaFurl 810 Problem

[PGIJon]

I have owned our H34 since May. The original 110 head sail needed some work. This is the first sailboat I have had without hank-ons, so I plead ignorance when it comes to furlers. So I lowered the sail took it to the loft which caused my wallet to lose a little weight. I then went to hoist the sail and furl it.... Note in the attached picture the halyard where the sail was attached to went through the block ("A" in Picture) at the top of the mast.... I thiought this was weird.. Anyway, I raised the sail and managed 3 rotations of the furler when it became impossible to furl it any further. I also thought it was weird when I purchased the boat that the halyard would wrap around the sail when it was furled... but didn't question it. So I pulled out the manual and it appears that the sail head is supposed to be attached to the Swivel Cup "C". The Haylard that is attached to "C" runs back to the cockpit. Which makes sense. So am I correct, thinking that the sail should be attached to a Shackle attached to the swivel "C"????? If that is the case... any idea how I can lower the swivel without climbing the mast?

Thank you in advance! Jon

 

[jeb21851]

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The head of the furling jib should be attached to the pin in the lower part of the swivel...you can use a small shackle for the attachment. However, I am afraid that you are going to have to go up the mast to attach a small line to the swivel to pull it back down the headstay while releasing the jib halyard in the cockpit. Once you have it lowered sufficiently so that you can reach it while standing on the deck, then make sure it swivels as it should (there have been problems over the years with the bearings). After checking that it operates properly, then you can attach the head of the jib and start to raise the jib as you feed the luff into the extrusions of the furler. After that, attach the tack of the jib to the drum and then tension the luff. You are then ready to furl the sail.

 

[Don Crowther]

If you unfurl the sail can you pull it down? The "A" block looks like it might be for a spinnaker. "B" should be your Jib halyard and your sail should be attached to the bottem half of "C"

 

[PGIJon]

Thank you Jeb21851 & Don.... The sail is down because it was raised with the "A" spinnaker halyard.... I tried to put some PVC pipes together with a 90 bend & and a short piece of pvc... Raised it up with the spinnaker halyard and was able to finess the short piec above the swival cup... I pulled on it and the top 10' of PVC broke away... pretty funny... I now have a 10 section of PVC hanging from the mast... OK.. So know I either have to call the rigger....or climb the rig... any thoughts on climibing? Thanks... Jon

 

[Don Crowther]

If you've got 2 lines left to raise you up then go for it. If not it's time to call in the pro's.

 

[Claude16102]

This is a picture of our 35.5 arrangement for the genoa. It seems that right now your swivel is attached to the spinnaker halyard.

 

[Mark48]

As others notedl, b would be the correct haylard. There have been a couple of ingenous hook design on sailnet that some have used to retrieve halyards you might look there before spending money.

Do you happen to have a manual for the 810, I have been looking for a copy as I have had some problems getting the furler to operate without jamming. Seem the bottom unit wants to turn and I end up with a wrapped furling line. I am hoping the manual will indicate why the bottom want to turn. Help appreciated.

 

[PGIJon]

Thank you all for your suggesting and guidance... however... I ended up calling in the pro... but now I cannot raise the sail more than half-way up... something seems to be jamming. I noticed that the top part of the swivel "C" begins to twist... I was able to raise it with the incorrect halyard "A"... Has this happened to anyone? Any ideas? Thanks.. Jon

 

[propellanttech]

Thank you all for your suggesting and guidance... however... I ended up calling in the pro... but now I cannot raise the sail more than half-way up... something seems to be jamming. I noticed that the top part of the swivel "C" begins to twist... I was able to raise it with the incorrect halyard "A"... Has this happened to anyone? Any ideas? Thanks.. Jon

You did check to make sure the swivel worked correctly, I hope.

You may want to check your halyard to make sure there are no problems with it. You may have to pull extra out of the mast to see if there is a chafe on the line.

Since you were able to raise it with the other halyard, I would say you have a problem with your jib halyard, and will probably need to replace it, but this is only a guess.

The only other thing would be the sheave at the top of the mast.

James L

 

[windwagon]

Pompano Marine has any parts you may need for the Hood 810 SeaFurl. They have a gal there who specializes on the Hoods. She will email a complete manual to you. I found her very helpful.

 

[PGIJon]

Thank you all.... I've finally got the sail up... The Admiral help... also used some sailkote.... Once I raised it fully the tack was fully 35" above the drive unit... Went to West Marine and made with some help a pennant lasking. All is well... Hopefully will go sailing this weekend. Thanks All and have a great Thanksgiving!

 

[Barnacle Bill]

Not sure if your question is answered, but it looks to me like the halyard in 'A' is the spinnaker halyard and has absolutely nothing to do with your furling genoa. The genoa, as stated before, has to be attached to the bottom of the upper swivel. I see that you have the clevis pin there, but no shackle is attached through the hole in the pin, which is how you attach the head of the sail. With the sail at full hoist, the genoa halyard shackle should not be jammed into the masthead as your picture now depicts. The head of the sail should be a few inches below the masthead so you have some room to tighten the halyard in heavier winds and ease it out in lighter winds. If this is the case (your upper swivel is lower than pictured when the sail is hoisted), then if you have furling problems it could be for a few reasons. First of all, you could have halyard wrap where the genoa halyard (not the spinnaker halyard) wraps around the forestay jamming it up. What you then need is a halyard restrainer. They are available from Furlex, Harken or Schaefer. The halyard feeds through this device and it contains the halyard at an angle which will prevent it from wrapping around the forestay. If this is not your problem, you should keep an eye on that spinnaker halyard, which, because it is so close to the upper swivel, might get caught up in it so that it wraps around the forestay jamming the upper swivel. If neither of these are a problem, then you have to look at other parts of the furler to see if you can determine any other problem. I have had to replace bearings on Hood LD systems (oddly enough they have two different size ball bearings). These can be obtained from your local marine dealer (if they know what they are doing) or from Pompanette directly who now owns the Hood systems.