HIN Location

May 2, 2020
5
Hunter 34 Mandeville, LA
Anyone know where the 2nd/hidden HIN number is located?

Looking at buying a 1984 Hunter 34. Hull has been painted and rear HIN is not visible. Registration on it has an odd HIN number that does not seem to match a Hunter: IRC3400IF909
Thanks, T&S
 

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Oct 21, 2009
316
hunter 38 Monaco
On my 2005 Hunter 38 the 2nd HIN is below the cockpit floor on port side. Sorry I think your cockpit layout must be different.
 
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May 2, 2020
5
Hunter 34 Mandeville, LA
I am seeing info about it under the steering quad cover so you may not be far off.
 
May 24, 2004
7,174
CC 30 South Florida
In August of 1984 rules were passed to require HIN ID to be in one other location besides the transom. Does not know when exactly it was enacted but if the boat was built prior to August you are not likely to find one. At best consider that this boat may have been manufactured for consumption outside the United States and somehow made its way into the States. Hunter Boat's Limited is a Brittish manufacturer but I do not think they built a 34'. If paint is what is blocking the HIN it would be proper to chemically try and remove the paint. A one of a kind boat may bear IRC manufacturers ID code but once again a Hunter 34 is not a one of a kind. If you cannot ascertain the HIN on the transom I would walk away from that deal. Problems may start in trying to transfer title and then in being able to secure insurance coverage and even finding a slot in a Marina.
 
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Jun 11, 2004
1,776
Oday 31 Redondo Beach
Too much time on my hands. This is a stretch.

If you change the I before the F to a 1 that makes a proper format. If you look that up it shows as Indian River Custom yachts. If you look them up along with Hunter there is a hit that shows a 2009 Hunter 31 finished by Indian River Custom Yachts.

A loose connection I know, and the number still doesn't correspond to the length and year of the boat you are looking at , but could Indian River Custom Yachts have finished off that boat?

Corona virus boredom.

I agree with Benny. Your best bet is to have the current owner remove the paint that's blocking out your hull number. I wouldn't buy it otherwise.
 
May 2, 2020
5
Hunter 34 Mandeville, LA
found a metal plate on the inside that has the HIN with the IRC3400IF909 but was clearly not the original. Owner says he was told the boat was refurbished 2 owners before him. could that have happened with Indian River? Went out on it today and it handled nicely. It is currently registered in LA under this HIN unless the registration is not real which I have no reason at this point to believe.

If LA Wildlife and Fisheries can confirm the HIN and registration is valid, is it possible the HIN was changed at some point?
 
Jun 2, 2004
3,560
Hunter 23.5 Fort Walton Yacht Club, Florida
Not sure that Louisiana titles boats so there may be an issue if you are taking it to another state and things are not 100% correct.

I bought my boat through a dealer in Mississippi from a guy in Louisiana. I had no issues registering the boat in Mississippi but when I moved to Florida there were all sorts of hoops I had to jump through.
 
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May 24, 2004
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CC 30 South Florida
It is currently registered in LA under this HIN unless the registration is not real which I have no reason at this point to believe.

If LA Wildlife and Fisheries can confirm the HIN and registration is valid, is it possible the HIN was changed at some point?
The registration is likely real but it may not belong to this boat. That metal placard you found is not a manufacturer's original. You can purchase the title and perhaps even register it in your name but without the HIN imprinted in the boat there is nothing to tie that hull to that title. That is an old trick to be able to sell or register a boat with no title, just find a title that matches and take it to the State's DMV which may not verify the actual HIN on the boat. It is possible that the HIN could have been changed at some time but there needs to be a document trail evidencing the change. A Marine Title search company with offices in LA could do a search and come up with the history of that title. Bottom line, to be sure that title belongs to that boat you need to confirm the number on the transom. Just don't see how or why a custom boat finisher would have to change the Manufacturers HIN on a boat unless the numbers and title were lost and in that event there should be documentation. Just think that when you go to sell that boat the prospective buyer is going to be just as hesitant as you are now. Just find out if you can get insurance for that boat with that title before you purchase. In case of an accident any insurance adjuster will have to verify the HIN on the hull and the company may likely withold payment.
 
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Jun 11, 2004
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Oday 31 Redondo Beach
You could try something like this. No idea if it's any good but might be worth the $40 compared to buying a questionable title.

 
May 2, 2020
5
Hunter 34 Mandeville, LA
did this and it all checks out. issue still remains that no info on it exists prior to this HIN.