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That looks pretty impressive, does the thing heel to a point and then sit there, or does it have the possibility of going over? sure felt to this greenhorn like it was going. I had the main and the stock jib out and when the heel felt excessive(to me) I let out the main to stop it. My tilt meter was a bit past 15 at the point where I let out the main. we were running in 15-20 knot of wind with a few gusts.
That looks pretty impressive, does the thing heel to a point and then sit there, or does it have the possibility of going over? sure felt to this greenhorn like it was going. I had the main and the stock jib out and when the heel felt excessive(to me) I let out the main to stop it. My tilt meter was a bit past 15 at the point where I let out the main. we were running in 15-20 knot of wind with a few gusts.
need for speed
It would be very hard to capsize your Mac. You can ease the sheet or point into the wind momentarily to handle a gust. Heeling any more than 15-20 degrees will actually cause you to be slower. There's no shame in depowering or even reefing to reduce heeling.
It would be very hard to capsize your Mac. You can ease the sheet or point into the wind momentarily to handle a gust. Heeling any more than 15-20 degrees will actually cause you to be slower. There's no shame in depowering or even reefing to reduce heeling.
don't worry
boats rarely broach because of wind. Waves do that. I'm not saying "never", but I've had my boat past 45 degrees more than once, and watched the rail catching the end of the bow wave. The more you do it the more comfortable you'll feel. Fun too, Kinda' like balancing a 4 wheeler on 2 wheels. I saw a Mac D go to 90 degrees in a race two weeks ago, but after the wind is dumped they just come back up. Make sure everything is as low as possible below, and bungied up or contained. 10-20 degrees is the sweet spot for most of us.
boats rarely broach because of wind. Waves do that. I'm not saying "never", but I've had my boat past 45 degrees more than once, and watched the rail catching the end of the bow wave. The more you do it the more comfortable you'll feel. Fun too, Kinda' like balancing a 4 wheeler on 2 wheels. I saw a Mac D go to 90 degrees in a race two weeks ago, but after the wind is dumped they just come back up. Make sure everything is as low as possible below, and bungied up or contained. 10-20 degrees is the sweet spot for most of us.
Just what I needed
Great photo. I still consider myself to be a novice sailor and have to remain calm to reassure my wife and 11 year old son. I've been on boats that have been over so far as to have water on the cabin top. This will serve as some type of proof that the 25 is made to sail this way. The only question I have is whether or not your keel is locked down. I generally do not lock mine in place as I have to raise and lower it to get to and from my slip. Without excessive heel I figure there is not enough force from the water to move the keel. Over on its side may be enough to move the keel to where I would need to lock it in. Any thoughts??? -John
Great photo. I still consider myself to be a novice sailor and have to remain calm to reassure my wife and 11 year old son. I've been on boats that have been over so far as to have water on the cabin top. This will serve as some type of proof that the 25 is made to sail this way. The only question I have is whether or not your keel is locked down. I generally do not lock mine in place as I have to raise and lower it to get to and from my slip. Without excessive heel I figure there is not enough force from the water to move the keel. Over on its side may be enough to move the keel to where I would need to lock it in. Any thoughts??? -John
I keep hearing...
that anything over 15* slows ya down but the singing of my keel cable and the amount of white water in the wake say otherwise. I have a V-21 with a 100% jib and no reef points and have found she likes 20-30* better for some reason. I guess it's the lengthening of the waterline 'cause the further over she goes, the faster she screams along. I've had her far enough over to have water come over the coaming and into the cockpit during a real hard puff and she always came back up on her feet. That's not the normal way I sail but I've been there. Talk about a rush! I would put the companionway hatch in place if you're gonna let it all hang out cause while filling the cockpit ain't bad, filling the cabin is.
that anything over 15* slows ya down but the singing of my keel cable and the amount of white water in the wake say otherwise. I have a V-21 with a 100% jib and no reef points and have found she likes 20-30* better for some reason. I guess it's the lengthening of the waterline 'cause the further over she goes, the faster she screams along. I've had her far enough over to have water come over the coaming and into the cockpit during a real hard puff and she always came back up on her feet. That's not the normal way I sail but I've been there. Talk about a rush! I would put the companionway hatch in place if you're gonna let it all hang out cause while filling the cockpit ain't bad, filling the cabin is.
Jack, why are you on the leward rail?
Quite a photo Jack! That's sailing.I'm wondering if she rounded up soon after that snapshot? Also am wondering why your back is showing on the leeward rail? Are you trimming the Jib, or just too lazy to change positions?
Quite a photo Jack! That's sailing.I'm wondering if she rounded up soon after that snapshot? Also am wondering why your back is showing on the leeward rail? Are you trimming the Jib, or just too lazy to change positions?
That's not me...
We had two other couples on the boat, and that guy is the one that was in charge of keeping the cooler from tipping over. I was on the tiller and the other guy in the group leaned over by the rail and took the picture. I won't print what the three women were saying about this time, since this is somewhat of a family forum...
We had two other couples on the boat, and that guy is the one that was in charge of keeping the cooler from tipping over. I was on the tiller and the other guy in the group leaned over by the rail and took the picture. I won't print what the three women were saying about this time, since this is somewhat of a family forum...
knock downs ruin a nice day....
When the railing is in the water...thats far enough (my rule). I dont want the windows wet. Anyway, the stuff in the CABIN gets all mixed up and out of place ... when heeling too far.
When the railing is in the water...thats far enough (my rule). I dont want the windows wet. Anyway, the stuff in the CABIN gets all mixed up and out of place ... when heeling too far.
You gotta reef to go fast...
I love passing boats that are heeled over past 20 degrees! I can only do this with all sails reefed according to the wind 15kts = second main reef, 20 kts = genoa to 80%. Keeps her in the 15 - 20 degree range and smack at max hull speed - plus, no complaints or screams from the crew! Also, much better speed when "surfing" waves when under 15 degrees heel. Chris
I love passing boats that are heeled over past 20 degrees! I can only do this with all sails reefed according to the wind 15kts = second main reef, 20 kts = genoa to 80%. Keeps her in the 15 - 20 degree range and smack at max hull speed - plus, no complaints or screams from the crew! Also, much better speed when "surfing" waves when under 15 degrees heel. Chris
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