Heat exchanger - 3GM30F

Oct 26, 2008
6,216
Catalina 320 Barnegat, NJ
I pulled the cover off my heat exchanger yesterday and this is what I found. I penetrated the holes with an awl that would only go in about an inch before the awl was too thick to pass further. Finding no resistance, I left well enough alone. This morning, I found a great topic about this from a thread in 2015 titled "3GM30F heat exchanger stuck!" but I find that I still have questions.
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I could not extract the cylinder. I tapped lightly with a screw driver and hammer around the perimeter of the cylinder but did not want to cause any damage. I also tapped on the pin. Nothing seemed to even want to break free. That black ring that looks like a rubber O ring felt metallic to me and that also would not budge. I couldn't tell if that was supposed to come off or not. The groove around the outer perimeter looked like the location where an O-ring should be placed, but I did not have one in that size (there wasn't one there when I opened it).

The diagram that @Allan12210 helpfully posted shows a gasket & an O-ring behind the cover. I couldn't tell from looking at the pin that it is actually a separate component. It seems fused to the cylinder to me. How would you approach removing the cylinder, and would you?

I only pulled the cover off because I was curious if there were any impeller bits in there. I started out by replacing the impeller and replacing the water pump belt. Saturday, Sue and I were sailing to Atlantic City. We were halfway there in the afternoon as the wind was getting lighter and we were going to turn pretty much downwind toward AC. The going was slow and bouncy, Sue was getting seasick, and I turned on the engine to get there by 5. No water passing thru the pump. I was horrified to see how bad the belt looked because I never paid enough attention to it - belt and impeller turned out to be bad. I had spare impeller and belt on the boat but I didn't have proper tools! I only had a crescent wrench and it wasn't sufficient to loosen bolts. BRING TOOLS ONBOARD! :banghead::banghead:. We sailed back to Barnegat Inlet & got a tow from there. It was a better point of sail and it took us a little over 3 hours to get outside the inlet. I was tempted to sail thru, but tide wasn't quite slack before turning favorable and Sue was insistent that we take a tow! Replaced the belt & impeller and all is fine. The impeller had no broken bits anyway.
 

DJAY

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Apr 16, 2018
38
Hunter 31 Saylorville Lake
The black ring is in fact an O ring. It is likely baked hard and removing it will destroy it. The black strip separates flow of water to make it go through the cylinder, it appears like twice. (On my 2gm this feature is a little different, but similar). The pin is fixed and it fits in a recess in the end cap to orient the cylinder to keep the flow of raw water flowing through the tubes in correct orientation. There is an O ring on the other end cap that is also likely baked into place. With the back cover off, it should be easy to tap the cylinder out. You will want to have all O rings and gaskets on had before you disassemble. Sorry you didn't get down to AC.
 

NYSail

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Jan 6, 2006
3,126
Beneteau 423 Mt. Sinai, NY
My tool box that lives on my boat is far better and better organized than my home set. Nothing like having the correct tool for the job!

Good luck?
 
Oct 26, 2008
6,216
Catalina 320 Barnegat, NJ
Ah!! I didn't think to look at the other end. I'll take another look. Is it appropriate to replace that cylinder after 20 years of service?
 
Jan 5, 2017
2,323
Beneteau First 38 Lyall Harbour Saturna Island
Ah!! I didn't think to look at the other end. I'll take another look. Is it appropriate to replace that cylinder after 20 years of service?
Shouldn’t have to replace it if you don’t poke holes in it while cleaning. A piece of wooden dowel is best but I use an old .22 cal. Rifle cleaning rod. ( different engine so maybe different size)
 
May 29, 2018
502
Canel 25 foot Shiogama, japan
Remove cylinder, Drop in a bucket of vinegar or brick cleaner and you have a new unit.
(Commercial descaling chemicals are usually made of either of these.)
Soaking cleans the interior and exterior of the tubes which also retuns the sytem to full efficiency.

Never poke anything stronger that a bamboo stick into the tubes.
The tube walls are thin to allow effective heat transfer, so chemical removal of built up is the only way that the should be cleaned.

Gary
 

NYSail

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Jan 6, 2006
3,126
Beneteau 423 Mt. Sinai, NY
and when you open the ends have all gaskets ready to replace. The rubber gaskets are part of the reason Yanmars mostly do not have engine zincs.

Good project that I never did on my 3HM35F on my old boat...... Ill get around to it on this one one day....

Good Luck!
 
Feb 21, 2008
412
Hunter 33 Metedeconk River
Yanmar's recommendation a couple of years ago was to take the heat exchanger out as described above and take it to a
radiator repair shop and have them clean it. Supposed to come back looking like new.
 
Oct 26, 2008
6,216
Catalina 320 Barnegat, NJ
Wow! I looked at the price for a replacement core … $1050. Better take care of that baby!
 
Nov 6, 2006
10,003
Hunter 34 Mandeville Louisiana
A shop that specializes in heat exchanger work may be able to rebuild he old one (replace tubs) for less than new cost..
 

MitchM

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Jan 20, 2005
1,030
Nauticat 321 pilothouse 32 Erie PA
You can buy a lot of Vinegar and small diameter long knitting needles for $1050... i did this ht exc clean on my 2 gm20 f . found the yanmar price for the special order weird end gaskets of the ht exch would buy a whole lot of auto store formagasket . Which held up just Fine and is easy to carry in the proverbial on board tool kit..
 
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Oct 22, 2014
22,224
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
:plus:With Michael. The 22 cal rod fit my HE. After playing with it I took it to a radiator shop. For $65 they cleans it out. Pressure tested the unit and painted the case.
Works perfectly now.