Heart disease

Jun 8, 2004
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Someone I know had been experiencing shortness of breath and fatigue which someone said he was out of shape. Going thru the airport, chest pain occurred slightly radiating into the left arm. Upon arriving home, near fainting and sweaty spells now occurring that fellow went to the ER only to be told tests to include blood pressure, heart rate and EKG were normal and was about to be discharged but insisted on a stress test with ecogram before and after. The test failed and the next was a heart cath which showed a 90% blockage. That was corrected thus avoiding a heart attack.

Ladies and Gents, the whole reason to writing this is often many know what the body is telling them and do not go thus experiencing serious complications. This was a good lesson for that person which was a very close call. So if you think you have any medical issues, get them checked out to live another day for sailing or in my case, to enjoy talking with you all and my grandsons. Yes that was me
 
Feb 3, 2015
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Marlow Hunter 37 Reefpoint Marina Racine, WI
You most likely had a non q myocardial infarction (heart attack). I'm glad you were tenacious and are now fine. Been there done that. a large percentage of men tend to ignore or worse you, tough out the symptoms (me and I was lucky). Symptoms differ greatly in men vs women. Please, everyone look up the signs and symptoms of heart attack for both men and women. Do not hesitate to seek medical care, do as CD did and be tenacious if need be!
 

RussC

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Sep 11, 2015
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Before everyone gets overly stressed: it wasn't Dave, it was a friend:

"Someone I know had been experiencing..." and "This was a good lesson for that person...".
Read the rest of Daves post. "or in my case, to enjoy talking with you all and my grandsons. Yes that was me."

Glad to hear you didn't just accept the hospitals "diagnosis" Dave, and are now here to tell us about it! My wife worked at our local hospital for 25+ years and saw many incidents like that. You are SO right that you know what your body is telling you, so listening to it and insisting they investigate further was absolutely the right thing to do.
 
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Jan 4, 2006
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Hunter 310 West Vancouver, B.C.
For the last ten years I've refused to acknowledge birthdays or anything my body tells me. Just get out there and bike harder and harder and it'll all be fine. I just hate anything that reminds me of mortality. Maybe it's time to change ................. maybe.
 
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May 23, 2004
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I'm in the market as were . Colonial Beach
These things can sneak up on you quickly. I have had 2 heart attacks. My first one was at 28 years of age. My second one was six years later.

Lucky for me I didn't have any damage to my heart. My issue was undersized veins in my heart, a genetic issue. I have two stints in my heart now.

Today I just finished running. I am trying to get back in better shape again. I have run a few 5Ks after my last heart attack.

The lesson for this one is this: According to my Cardiologist I may or may not be able to prevent another heart attack. The odd part is that, in his words, "It won't kill you, just get to the hospital." When he saw my puzzled look he said that these are minor and not causing damage. He also said that remaining in good physical condition helps a lot should this happen.

If something feels wrong then go check it out. Monitor yourself and be aware of your family history. I had a grandfather that had his first heart attack at 30. He lived to 65 when another heart attack killed him. I wasn't aware of the family history of early heart attacks until I had my first heart attack.

Dave gives some great advice. Keep up on these things.

I am glad that the person who had the heart attack is okay.
 
Jan 6, 2010
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Dave,

Good callout point man.

As we grow older, our past lifestyles, diets, exercise & age take their toll on us.
Many of us pay no mind to the early symptoms, as many can appear very minor.
There is also a difference in GENDER symptons as well, that many do not know about.

So, to be on the safe side, here's two links from WebMD. I have used this site for a number of years.
The first link is for men, the second link is for women. There are symptom differences.

http://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/features/his-guide-to-a-heart-attack

http://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/features/womens-heart-attack-symptoms

Like I always say, "Information is power." It would behoove our SBO members &
their loved ones to read up on these symptoms for their safety & peace of mind.

Kudos to you Dave,

CR
 

Rick D

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Jun 14, 2008
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Hunter Legend 40.5 Shoreline Marina Long Beach CA
Dave, I had exactly that happen to me 14 years ago. I was walking every day around the lake and had experienced a constriction around my throat a few times walking up a steep hill. No chest pain or anything else objective. Went to my medical center for evaluation. Did BP, EKG and blood work. Nothing observable. I was driving home when I got a call to return for a stress test "on a hunch". I did. Everything was just fine... until bonk. Admitted and had three stents put in. Glad this worked out for you too! You have a lot of company.
 
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Oct 2, 2008
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Pearson/ 530 Strafford, NH
Studies show that married men live longer than single men ,,,,,,,,,,, actually it just feels longer.

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Jun 8, 2004
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Thank you all for and sharing. Like I have told a few, I hate going to the ER but also my wife was insisting too. Yes marriage can have the ups and downs but in my case, I am blessed to have Annie. Like I said going to the ER when your body tells you to go, then go. Once I went with a belly ache and it turned out to be a ruptured bowel. Not a pleasant experience fighting for life for a couple weeks until a sigh of relief. Had to go back to get the plumbing reattached. So, folks, listen to what the body is saying and even when tests say otherwise, keep digging until you know.
 
Oct 10, 2009
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Catalina 27 3657 Lake Monroe
Wow, what a jolt; we are all lucky you got the help you needed. And you guys all need to stay healthy in order to keep up the steady stream of good advice.
 
Aug 31, 2013
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Hunter 26 Saylorville-Des Moines
Great to still be enjoying life, Dave. Take care of yourself and thanks for your reminder to us.
 

kito

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Sep 13, 2012
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1979 Hunter Cherubini 30 Clemmons
I am glad you are doing well CDC. Just curious, after all your initial tests said you were fine, what test did they run to finally realize you had blockage? I ask because I went through a bunch of tests including a EKG, Holter monitor, stress test etc. and they basically said my heart is good. My BP is a little high and now on BP medication. It got me to quit smoking anyway.........
 
Jun 3, 2004
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Hunter 34 Toronto, Ontario Canada
Its a precarious world we live in. Three years ago this Sept, my wife was out crewing (foredeck) in the last race of the season. Beautiful night, dinner afterwards at the club, drive home. Says she is tired and went to bed a bit earlier than usual. got up in the night to go to the bathroom , came back collapsed on the bed. Scared the bejesus out of me. To ER by ambulance, still having arrhythmic attacks, entubated and sedated for 3 weeks in ICU, stabilized, ICD implanted, rehab and out late Nov. Still going to rehab in spring, starts to feel tired in April, back in hospital, more arrhythmia, ablatement to remove scar tissue, didn't solve the arrhythmia, biopsy- giant cell myocarditis, emergency operation to install BIVAD, back in 4 times to stop bleeding, rare TRALI reaction on one of the re-enteries. on lung machine for a while. Heart transplant end of June. Soon to celebrate 2 year "birthday" Doing pretty well but a long road back. Sometimes your body gives no warning. She had always had excellent physicals, EKG every year, Her doctor used to say "wish my results were as good as yours"
 
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Oct 2, 2008
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Like Rick D I didn't feel any pain, dizziness, etc. only a little trouble swallowing. Having an active career and keeping fit with jogging and exercise I just thought the old age was creeping up on me. UPS delivered my new SSB radio and I brought it in the house. Felt like I just swallowed a pill that didn't go down, except I didn't have anything. Unusual for me so we went to the ER on a hunch. By then everything went away. The ER Doc ordered bloods to be checked three times for enzymes. On a hunch she called the cardiac Doc at home and had me stay the night. He comes in early and decides against the stress test to do the CAT exam on a hunch. He didn't do a stent because it was close to a Y in the artery. They sent me to the regional cardiac hospital so they could do the job with their high-tech cardiac unit.

In the regional CAT lab they didn't like the Y position either so they woke me up and explained the by-pass procedure. Within a day (Easter) it was all done and I was planning how to get back on my feet. They actually helped stand me up and walked me down the hallway. Four days later I was home planning how to be on the water headed south by Labor Day.

The visiting nurses had a program (mostly for old folks) that I met within a week. They signed off after I walked a mile with one of them and did the respiratory test. I was then sent to the Cardiac Rehab Unit three times a week for six weeks plus exercise at home. I had to follow their regimen otherwise they wouldn't sign me off. They were very strict and could monitor my heart rate so I stayed within the program. Six weeks later I graduated at the head of my class.

My Cardiac Doc was a little upset when I said I wouldn't make a six month check-up unless he was in the Bahamas. Since not to many of his patients go sailing off after surgery, he made me promise to keep exercising and not drink too much. We did the best we could with that. I just let him know I was back with a tan.

So based on a hunch things went pretty well and my docs think I'm good for at least 15 more years. I did learn one thing besides exercise and eating right pays off. If your wife is at your bedside and you're wired to a heart monitor when the hot female doctors and nurses stop in to check on you, that beeping sound will speed up every time. (And the pain in my right arm turned out to be my wife's fingernails.)



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Jan 12, 2011
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Someone I know had been experiencing shortness of breath and fatigue which someone said he was out of shape. Going thru the airport, chest pain occurred slightly radiating into the left arm. Upon arriving home, near fainting and sweaty spells now occurring that fellow went to the ER only to be told tests to include blood pressure, heart rate and EKG were normal and was about to be discharged but insisted on a stress test with ecogram before and after. The test failed and the next was a heart cath which showed a 90% blockage. That was corrected thus avoiding a heart attack.
I had a similar experience and went home from the ER to have another heart attack.
 
Mar 3, 2003
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Hunter 356 Grand Rivers
I had eaten at a new restaurant and thought I had eaten garlic bread by mistake and had bad indigestion. We were in Knoxville at a UT football game. I grabbed a handful of Rolades, took two Tagamet and walked up and down East TN hills 2.5 miles toward the stadium. Almost there, I was in a cold sweat, white and my wife and I decided to go into Walgreens. It was 95 outside and wall to wall people inside. Went to a nearby dorm while I somewhat recovered, but still no thought I was having a heart attack. Attended the game, walked back 2.5 miles through the same hills and when arrived at the car, told my wife she had to drive the 3-1/2 hours home - I was too tired. She got within 1-1/2 hours from home, 2:00 AM, woke me and I drove the rest of the way. Got up at 7 and taught Sunday School that morning. Went home and crashed. At the time, 1999, we had a Hunter 260 and would have gone sailing 1-1/4 hours away, but I was too tired to go. Monday Morning my wife asked when we were going to the lake. I said, still too tired. I was 52 and burned the candle from both ends and was never tired. She knew something was wrong.

Next day, she called St Thomas in Nashville and made an appointment with her internist for me on Thursday. I am an Architect and we were planning on going to Florida the next weekend for the UT- Florida game. On Wednesday afternoon, she informed me of the appointment and I was raging mad because I didn't have time to go to a Doctor! I was to busy working!! Well she drug me there and I did a stress test. 8 minutes and 46 seconds later, the nurse looked at m with eyes that only foretell gloom and cut off the treadmill and gave me nitroglycerine. At that point, I became a believer. I saw the Internist, got a prescription for nitro and was told to be back at 9 the next morning to meet my Cardiologist. Said if I had "that feeling in my chest" to take one nitro tablet. If it didn't stop in 5 minutes to take another one as I was getting in the car to head to the hospital. Said to call and they would have a cardiologist meet me at the ER. I didn't sleep well that night.

Showed up at 9, met my cardiologist as the nurse was giving me a nitroglycerine tablet. They rushed me for an arterogram, found two 99.9% widow maker's and rushed me to the OR for a double bypass. Me fuming and telling them I was not sick as my wife was saying " Take him".

I barely survived, but with major heart damage. I had complications and was in a coma for 5 days. My heart ejection fraction is about half what a normal person is and I have a defibrillator - but I am alive thanks to my wife and the excellant physicians at St Thomas hospital in Nashville. I have had one bypass collapse and two stents put in to reopen it. A year later, they inserted a catheter with a radiological device and burned the scar tissue out of the stents. In 2010, two new stents went inside the old ones. I am on my third defibrillator, one having been recalled. Just a month ago, after my annual stress echo, my cardiologist, and now very good friend came into the exam room and said " I don't like what I saw today and we need an arteriogram. Do you want to do it this week or next week?" Two days later I was at St Thomas for the procedure. My oldest bypass that had never been stinted had failed, but to our good luck, my body had grown new arteries around it in the last 16 years and I was providing the needed blood flow, albeit not quite as efficient as the bypass had. I was released the same day and have an appointment 6 months later for a routine checkup.

I am the lucky one. I had a persistent wife who forced me to go to the Doctor. Now, I go to my Cardiologist every 6 months, my Internist every 4 months, my defibrillator is wirelessly monitoring me as I write this and I see my Elctrophysiology Cardiologist for an office visit once a year. I traded that 1998 Hunter 260 for a new Hunter 356 in the spring of 2003 and I have sailed it over 8500 miles, to Florida and back from Kentucky lake and I feel great. If you are even thinking you may have heart disease I want you to go call your Doctor now and mak an appointment for a check-up. My Dad was 50 and on a trip with my Mother in Europe in 1968 and died of a massive heart attack, I was 52 and damn near died too. Only the advancement of medical technology has kep me alive. My Cardiologist says I am an 8 cylinder engine on 4 cylinders and I can do anything anybody can, I just do it half as fast. Avoid the heart attack by an ounce of prevention.

I think I'll live a lot longer, but one thing I know is that somebody reading this is about to have a heart attack. GO GET A CHECKUP - and spare yourself and your family your potential death or months of recovery. Don't be stupid like I was and ignore your own symptoms. Recoveryfrom a stent is like getting your teeth cleaned.
 
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zeehag

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Mar 26, 2009
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checkup is no guarantee of cardiac event free living.
most of my patients in their 50s were just out of the mds office from their awesome 100 percent healthy checkups.
some of em, my favorite cardiac patients, were survivors , by age 54, of fatal dysrhythmias and cpr. lucky folks. no mi(heart attack).
know your symptoms
know how your body handles discomfort--is not necessarily pain- can be heartburn, arm heaviness, jaw heaviness...
women have different symptoms, but the heaviness in extremities is shared. with women it can feel like a sudden and inappropriate heartburn.
the reversing procedures for myocardial infarction can only be initiated within 1-2 hours of onset of pain. we tried 4 hours without success--too much ischemia for too long.
pay attention to your bodies and do not continuously extend and re extend the areas of damages as did our tough guy stories of continuing the exertion until damnear dead. awesome stoicism, but bad for longevity. it is good you paid attention to that nagging wife and went to the doc. shoulda nipped your walk short for better results. just sayin, not condemning. you did that yourself. sorry you got heart hurt, but....
yeah i watched as members of my immediate family endured these symptoms. luckily , my dad listened, my uncle did not, and my grandmother went of fatal dysrhythmia in her sleep after her 4th significant cardiac event. we should all be so fortunate.
 
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