Head maintenance

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FMott

Peggie: Your comments and recommendations in this forum have been very useful and I have relied on your expertise many times over the years. Thank you. I have pasted a copy of some remarks that came out in an e-newsletter from one of our local yacht service representatives regarding head maintenance. I can't cite the exact reference forum, but it seems to me that several things in their article are in direct contrast to recommendations that I have read from not only you but many others in this forum. For example, the comment to leave vinegar in the line for several minutes; I recall that it should be flushed through quickly. Also, the recommendation to put vegetable oil in the bowl and flush it through to lube the parts seems incorrect. I would love to hear your thoughts about these and any other remarks in the paragraphs below. Thanks.
Frank Mott
Seabrook Texas


MARINE TOILET MAINTENANCE:

Cleaning The Lines - Heads flushed with salt water accumulate scale deposits in the discharge channels and hoses. Scale deposits cause a head to get progressively harder to flush and it is scale on the valves that allows water in the discharge line to leak back into the bowl. Calcium deposits eventually lead to total blockage, a most unpleasant prospect. Avoiding this problem is as easy as running a pint of white vinegar through the head once a month. Move the vinegar through the head slowly, giving the head a single pump every 4 or 5 minutes. The mildly acidic vinegar dissolves fresh scale inside the head and hoses. When the vinegar has passed all the way through the system, pump a gallon of fresh water through to flush the lines. If you suspect you already have a scale build-up, dissolve it with a 10% solution of muriatic acid, available from most hardware stores. The acid won't harm porcelain, plastic, or rubber parts. It does attack metal, but consequential damage takes a long time. The biggest danger is to eyes and skin, so be sure you observe all label precautions. Pour two cups of acid into the bowl. It will fizz as it reacts with the calcium deposits on the bowl valve. When the fizzing stops, pump the head-intake closed, just enough to empty the bowl. This moves the acid into the pump. After a few minutes, pump again to move the acid into the discharge hose. Let it sit a few more minutes before opening the intake and thoroughly flushing the toilet and lines. The acid is "used up" as it reacts with the calcium, so heavy scaling may call for more than one treatment. Scale and salt also finds their way into the anti-siphon valve in the discharge line. Remove the valve and soak it in warm, soapy water to dissolve deposits that could be holding it shut-or open.

Lubricating - To keep the pump operating smoothly, follow your monthly vinegar flush with a dose of oil. The best choice is a lubricant intended for marine toilets, but you can also use mineral oil or vegetable oil. Oil lubricates the pump wall and helps to keep internal rubber and leather parts supple. The usual treatment is to let a little water into the bowl, pour in a couple of ounces of lube, and pump this through the toilet. This method is adequate, but less than ideal because it lubricates only the discharge side of the pump. To also lubricate the intake side, disconnect the intake hose from the closed seacock and pour the oil into this hose. Pumping the head will pull this oil through both chambers of the pump. While you are servicing the head, lightly coat the piston rod with Teflon grease. This will prolong the life of the piston-rod seal.

Odor - Marine toilets need not stink, but they often do. The discharge hose is, by far, the most common culprit. To check yours, rub the hose with a clean cloth, then sniff the cloth. If it has picked up an odor, the hose is permeable and you will never eliminate the odor until you replace this hose with a proper sanitation hose. Leaking connections are another source of odor, and you can use your cloth the same way to locate a leak. Also check the seal around the piston rod. On some heads, tightening the seal will stop a leak; on others a leaky piston-rod seal must be replaced. Another common source of head odor is grass and other marine life trapped inside the flush-water passage under the rim of the bowl. Prevent this by installing a strainer in the intake line. An anti-siphon valve in the discharge line can also release odors into the boat. A properly installed valve vents outside the cabin area.
 
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Well, there are some things I'd do differently...

Starting with the use of distilled white vinegar to prevent mineral buildup in the hoses. I don't think just once a month is often enough, nor is it necessary to use a pint. I've always recommended just a cupful once a week, flushed ALL the way through the system, just before the boat will sit or at least when it can stay in the lines overnight. Can't think of any reason to do it slowly, and I certainly wouldn't rinse it out...It does need to be flushed completely out of the toilet though.

Nothing wrong with usng mineral or vegetable oil to lube a toilet...but it is a never-ending job every week or two...whereas putting a healthy dollop of thick teflon grease directly into the pump takes about 15 minutes once a year and you're done.

Not much to argue about in the little said about odor, except for "a properly installed anti-siphon valve vents outside the cabin." A properly installed anti-siphon valve (vented loop) should have an air valve installed in it that only allows air INTO the line the break a siphon, nothing out...eliminating the need for a vent line on it. In fact, because a vent line on a vented loop is so small--only 1/4" ID--it's actually a bad idea in a discharge line because it very quickly becomes clogged with waste and sea water minerals, turning it into an UNvented loop that no longer has any ability to break a siphon...and because it doesn't call attention to itself by squirting or outgassing, it's "out of sight, out of mind" and therefore is never cleaned out.

You're welcome to pass my comments on the yacht service rep...and perhaps suggest he check out my book. In fact, I'd even be glad to write a hand out piece for him
 
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fmott

Thanks Peggie, as always. I guess our service rep wasn't too far off. We currently have an electric Wilcox pump. We put a cup of white vinegar in the bowl about twice/month (we aren't on the boat every week) and immediately flush it out of the bowl into the discharge lines. We usually do it just before leaving the boat and so we run some fresh water through to clear the bowl and pump. I realize now that that is probably clearing it from the lines as well and thus defeating the purpose. It might be better for us to put it in enough in advance to let it sit in the line for at least a few hours before we leave the boat.

We haven't been putting mineral oil into the bowl. I'm not sure if it makes a difference regarding this if one has an electric pump instead of a manual one. What do you say on this? It certainly would not be difficult to put some oil into the bowl and run it through as often as we do the vinegar.

I do service the pump and replace the joker valve every 12-18 months. I have not opened the pump to apply teflon grease but it has worked well for years. Thanks again. Frank
 
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