Hatch Seals

[Mic Jones]

Hatch Seals --I recently bought a 1989/90 ? 26D That is/was in very rough shape. It is now gutted and in the process of being restored. I have some liimited experience with sail boats but more with power boats.
Mac parts are difficult to locate in the interior of BC. All the hatch seals are gone. I need to know where to get them or at least a generic replacement. Has any one had experience with hatch seals?

 

[Sumner]

Welcome to the board and try this:

http://www.bwyachts.com/BWYParts/PartsList.htm

Look under the deck items. It looks like they have it at $2.00 per foot. That page takes a while to load even on high speed, so wait for it.

Also if it is of any help I have a pretty extensive links page on my site for Macs and Ventures here.......

http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/macgregor/macgregor-links-1.html

We were in B.C. last month with our Mac and it was beautiful. We will be back,

Sum and Ruth

Our Mac Pages

Mac Links

 

[MrBill_FLL]

I use HD weatherstripping. flat 1/2" x 1/4 tall, (IIRC), it doesnt make a perfect seal... but pretty good.

The bow hatch was more tricky... but also used the foam in the weatherstripping isle. maybe have doubled that up some...

BWY is great for hard to find Mac parts, everything else I try to source from lowes or home depot. (but electrical)

are you taking pic's of your progress? so, where are they? j/k..

 

[Mic Jones]

Rbuild

Welcome to the board and try this:

http://www.bwyachts.com/BWYParts/PartsList.htm

Look under the deck items. It looks like they have it at $2.00 per foot. That page takes a while to load even on high speed, so wait for it.

Also if it is of any help I have a pretty extensive links page on my site for Macs and Ventures here.......

http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/macgregor/macgregor-links-1.html

We were in B.C. last month with our Mac and it was beautiful. We will be back,

Sum and Ruth

Our Mac Pages

Mac Links

Many thanks, your site gave me encouragement to carry on with this wreck which was the only way I could afford to get a sail boat. You have the after photos. I should have taken some before ones. So far I haven't located some of the items I need on bwy web I will phone bwy tomorrow.

I've had the boat out a few times and know it is what I want but safety aspects need tending to. Smoke from the BC fires prevent any sailing at the moment.

Mic J

 

[Mic Jones]

Re build

I use HD weatherstripping. flat 1/2" x 1/4 tall, (IIRC), it doesnt make a perfect seal... but pretty good.

The bow hatch was more tricky... but also used the foam in the weatherstripping isle. maybe have doubled that up some...

BWY is great for hard to find Mac parts, everything else I try to source from lowes or home depot. (but electrical)

are you taking pic's of your progress? so, where are they? j/lk..

I will give this a try many thanks. Photos? they were too depressing. I thought I had made a mistake purchasing this wreck which was the only way I could afford a sail boat and was just about get rid of it then I discouvered this forum when looking for parts and help.

There should be a SPC to Macs
Many thanks Mic J

 

[Sumner]

........... Smoke from the BC fires prevent any sailing at the moment..........Mic J

Wow we were on Kootenay the end of July and it was clear as a bell for the first 10 days or so then smoke moved in so bad that we could hardly see a mile. Sorry to hear it is still bad.

Sum and Ruth

 

[Justin_NSA]

It's $2/ft at BWY for the bulb-type replacement gasket

 

[Mic Jones]

It's $2/ft at BWY for the bulb-type replacement gasket

Thank you. The hatches have warped over time and the the misuse and need a large bulb type seal.

 

[Mic Jones]

Wow we were on Kootenay the end of July and it was clear as a bell for the first 10 days or so then smoke moved in so bad that we could hardly see a mile. Sorry to hear it is still bad.

Sum and Ruth

Hi both, Kootenays are fairly free of fires. 423 fires burning as of noon. Most of us are on standby. Getting used to it like the blitz in London where I lived during WW2.

I have another problem. The rear backstay anchor plate is mounted outside the laz. on the portside of the upper rudder mount pin. causing a great deal of mast bounce under sailI. I noticed on your photos that it is mounted inside the Laz. about 20 inches from the starbd side of of the boat, off the center line with only 2 inched of the anchor plate showing. This is where it may have been mounted as there is silicon filling the slot and holes that were there. Why is it off center? Hope you can help

Mic J

 

[Paul Brinkley]

My 26S also has the backstay chainplate inside the lazarette to the starboard side of the rudder post. All of the 26s models I've seen are that way, I've not seen a 26D that close. On the S, and probably the D, the chainplate is offset from the center so it will not interfere with lifting the tiller to open the lazarette. If it is adequately mounted on the port side, with adequate backing, its probably okay; if there is any doubt, I would move it back to the original position. You mention mast bouncing- if your backstay is too loose, tighten it just enough to eliminate the slack when the sail is not loaded. Good luck- I know you will enjoy your boat when you get it fixed up. -Paul

 

[Mic Jones]

Re build

My 26S also has the backstay chainplate inside the lazarette to the starboard side of the rudder post. All of the 26s models I've seen are that way, I've not seen a 26D that close. On the S, and probably the D, the chainplate is offset from the center so it will not interfere with lifting the tiller to open the lazarette. If it is adequately mounted on the port side, with adequate backing, its probably okay; if there is any doubt, I would move it back to the original position. You mention mast bouncing- if your backstay is too loose, tighten it just enough to eliminate the slack when the sail is not loaded. Good luck- I know you will enjoy your boat when you get it fixed up. -Paul

Hi Paul Now I understand. I tried to att. photo hope it worked. This will show you why I got the mast bounce from the external anchor. The Laz door had be altered to open sideways. Messy mod.

I've just located another glitch. The rear trailer spring att. point has broken off the trailer frame. Now I've got to learn how to remove the boat from the trailer as its too dangerous to tow and launch. Any ideas. I have a back hoe and large straps a bunch of old tires. I will probable move the axle back as described in the forum when I do the repair
Mic J

 

[Paul Brinkley]

Picture is good, Mic. I cannot guess why the PO did this, as I don't see any improvement to the backstay, the lazarette, or the tiller! Certainly that springy chain plate gives little support to the mast until the mast bends enough to straighten the chain plate. Over time, this constant flexing will likely cause a fatigue failure in the chain plate, which could cause damage to your mast. I think I would put it back in the original position.
AS for the trailer repair, there are several threads on this site detailing procedures for supporting the boat while you move the trailer out from under it. Try a search. Basically, you lower the tongue as low as possible, which elevates the stern. Build a supporting structure under the stern (structural wood frame, carefully stacked concrete blocks, or something else that is striong enough and will not tip over). A couple of your old tires on top might be good- block them so that they are paralllel to the hull to spread the load. Whatevr you do, be safe and make sure it will not collapse on you. Once the stern is supported, you can crank up the front jack to raise the bow high enough to clear the trailer. You can block up a beam under the bow, extending outside the wheels so you can pull the trailer out. Or, if you back hoe will handle it, you may be able to rig a sling to pick up the bow while you move the trailer. Just be careful. Some of the past threads have different methods and sometimes some pics. Good luck. -Paul

 

[Mic Jones]

Picture is good, Mic. I cannot guess why the PO did this, as I don't see any improvement to the backstay, the lazarette, or the tiller! Certainly that springy chain plate gives little support to the mast until the mast bends enough to straighten the chain plate. Over time, this constant flexing will likely cause a fatigue failure in the chain plate, which could cause damage to your mast. I think I would put it back in the original position.
AS for the trailer repair, there are several threads on this site detailing procedures for supporting the boat while you move the trailer out from under it. Try a search. Basically, you lower the tongue as low as possible, which elevates the stern. Build a supporting structure under the stern (structural wood frame, carefully stacked concrete blocks, or something else that is striong enough and will not tip over). A couple of your old tires on top might be good- block them so that they are paralllel to the hull to spread the load. Whatevr you do, be safe and make sure it will not collapse on you. Once the stern is supported, you can crank up the front jack to raise the bow high enough to clear the trailer. You can block up a beam under the bow, extending outside the wheels so you can pull the trailer out. Or, if you back hoe will handle it, you may be able to rig a sling to pick up the bow while you move the trailer. Just be careful. Some of the past threads have different methods and sometimes some pics. Good luck. -Paul

Thanks Paul will keep the forum posted.
Cheers
Mic J

 

[Sumner]

Here is how I lifted mine part way off to do some work........

http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/macgregor/outside-3.html

Sure hope you get some rain to help with those fires,

Sum