Guess you can tell from all my posts that I have the boat in the yard for a mini-refit....has anyone replaced the large cockpit drain hose that runs from the drain in the rear of the cockpit to the drain hole behind the rudder post on the H33'? I was wondering what you used for hose, as it looks large and somewhat hard to remove...mine appears to have been folded when it was installed, and I am afraid that it will crack and start leaking if not replace soon...any experience would be helpful...Does anyone know the diameter of the hose? thanks
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H33 cockpit drain
I found this photo in my files showing the hose as 3" on my 79 H33. It is wet exhaust hose with wire and is a bear to get on as the fiber glass stubs are fairly long. Mine in the photo should probably be double clamped.
I found this photo in my files showing the hose as 3" on my 79 H33. It is wet exhaust hose with wire and is a bear to get on as the fiber glass stubs are fairly long. Mine in the photo should probably be double clamped.
thanks, Terry, thats what I needed
Thanks, Terry, I was afraid that was the sort of hose it was!....I'll try heat and KY lubricant and see if that works...I thought about just connecting them with a formed fiberglass tube, but I'm afraid I might get stress cracking from big waves over time, so I guess I'll use the flexible solution. Thanks again for the photo.
Thanks, Terry, I was afraid that was the sort of hose it was!....I'll try heat and KY lubricant and see if that works...I thought about just connecting them with a formed fiberglass tube, but I'm afraid I might get stress cracking from big waves over time, so I guess I'll use the flexible solution. Thanks again for the photo.
When it's time...
..to replace that thing I think it might be time for me to get rid of the boat. From what I can see in there it looks to be one mother of a job. It appears the hose was worked on as the hull and deck were mated as the boat was being assembled. The deck spigot ends up quite close to the hull spigot with very little space in between. I can't see any way for a normal human being to to jam that hose in there, shove it up, then haul it back down over the hull spigot. It wouldn't be fun out in the open, let alone flopping around in that torture chamber. If I had to do the repair, ( which so far it looks like I won't need to for several years) I'd be looking at forming the tube in place by wrapping the spigots with resin wetted glass cloth strips. Luckily my wife now knows how to mix resin and wet out glass by now. I think the hose will come off easily enough with a sharp utility knife and Dermel tool. I have a hunch that flex is not a real big concern there. I think Hunter used the rubber hose as an expedient to quick assembly. (Least senior assembler gets to lay in the stern cavity as the deck comes down onto the hull and guides the hose and spigots together.. ---What Fun!) If that is the case the glass repair would be fine, just a wee bit messy. If the joint must remain flexible I think I might start looking for a front wheel drive C-V joint gaitor. Much more flexy and it might be fairly easy to get in there. Also fairly sturdy. In actual use they stand up to millions of flex cycles. Not to put a fine point on it but, better you than me!!!
..to replace that thing I think it might be time for me to get rid of the boat. From what I can see in there it looks to be one mother of a job. It appears the hose was worked on as the hull and deck were mated as the boat was being assembled. The deck spigot ends up quite close to the hull spigot with very little space in between. I can't see any way for a normal human being to to jam that hose in there, shove it up, then haul it back down over the hull spigot. It wouldn't be fun out in the open, let alone flopping around in that torture chamber. If I had to do the repair, ( which so far it looks like I won't need to for several years) I'd be looking at forming the tube in place by wrapping the spigots with resin wetted glass cloth strips. Luckily my wife now knows how to mix resin and wet out glass by now. I think the hose will come off easily enough with a sharp utility knife and Dermel tool. I have a hunch that flex is not a real big concern there. I think Hunter used the rubber hose as an expedient to quick assembly. (Least senior assembler gets to lay in the stern cavity as the deck comes down onto the hull and guides the hose and spigots together.. ---What Fun!) If that is the case the glass repair would be fine, just a wee bit messy. If the joint must remain flexible I think I might start looking for a front wheel drive C-V joint gaitor. Much more flexy and it might be fairly easy to get in there. Also fairly sturdy. In actual use they stand up to millions of flex cycles. Not to put a fine point on it but, better you than me!!!
Sam's idea.
I think Sam hit on it with the idea of the compressible hose. PSS, for example, makes a shaft seal for a 3" stern tube. Maybe you could buy just the rubber bellows. A CV Joint cover would be ideal if you could get the right diameter and length. I think I have also seen something like that at Home Depot or Lowes. As for the lengths of the two stubs. Nothing to say that you can't shorten them. Just leave enough for two clamps on each end.
I think Sam hit on it with the idea of the compressible hose. PSS, for example, makes a shaft seal for a 3" stern tube. Maybe you could buy just the rubber bellows. A CV Joint cover would be ideal if you could get the right diameter and length. I think I have also seen something like that at Home Depot or Lowes. As for the lengths of the two stubs. Nothing to say that you can't shorten them. Just leave enough for two clamps on each end.
Hey Terry, what's that.....
Extra hose and fitting just aft of your deck/hull tube drain? It looks like the extra hose and fitting goes to the bottom of your aft locker shelf. Hum.. is that for draining gas fumes from a propane tank or the like? As far as replacing the large tube... mine is shorter than Terry's. Seems my fiberglass parts are much closer, my 3" hose has a slight jog.. or offset to it. I asked Hunter about this a few years ago, they said, if I remember right, that this hose prob. would never need replacing and if it did, there should be no flex there and a fiberglass tube made in place like Sam suggested would work. But, don't take my word for it, ask Hunter. They have continued to answer such questions and give tech support when ever I need it. If it where me, I'd leave it unless it has cracked thur and is leaking. Remember, its above the waterline when not underway, the repair can be made at anchor or at the dock. Good luck. David Underwood
Extra hose and fitting just aft of your deck/hull tube drain? It looks like the extra hose and fitting goes to the bottom of your aft locker shelf. Hum.. is that for draining gas fumes from a propane tank or the like? As far as replacing the large tube... mine is shorter than Terry's. Seems my fiberglass parts are much closer, my 3" hose has a slight jog.. or offset to it. I asked Hunter about this a few years ago, they said, if I remember right, that this hose prob. would never need replacing and if it did, there should be no flex there and a fiberglass tube made in place like Sam suggested would work. But, don't take my word for it, ask Hunter. They have continued to answer such questions and give tech support when ever I need it. If it where me, I'd leave it unless it has cracked thur and is leaking. Remember, its above the waterline when not underway, the repair can be made at anchor or at the dock. Good luck. David Underwood
You have talked me out of it
after reading all the responses, and crawling back and really looking at the hose, I've decided that the "kink" in the hose still leaves plenty of room for water to drain (its worked for 26 years so far)and the hose is still intact.....so I'll fix it when it leaks- or I find something easier to use than 3" reinforced exhaust hose... thanks for the input
after reading all the responses, and crawling back and really looking at the hose, I've decided that the "kink" in the hose still leaves plenty of room for water to drain (its worked for 26 years so far)and the hose is still intact.....so I'll fix it when it leaks- or I find something easier to use than 3" reinforced exhaust hose... thanks for the input
79 H33 cockpit drain
Sam you certainly know from experience that the H33 is full of spaces where no "normal" human being can operate but where the maintaining owner must somehow go and function. Around that cockpit drain hose is not even one of the worse. I did replace my hose several years ago as it was surface cracked (but not leaking) and don't remember it as being particularly difficult, as H33 maintenance goes but I do remember that that small piece of hose was ridiculously expensive. Certainly forming a fiberglass tube would have taken much more time and labor not to mention getting high on resin fumes in that small space and then worrying about that rigid tube everytime the boat shudders and pounds in a sea. At least on my 79 H33, Hunter did make the stubs so that the hose is removable and replaceable. I didn't even have to cut the hose to get the old one out. JLogan, it yours is sound but simply folded, you might be able to simply take it off, cut off a portion and reinstall. David, that small hose in my posted picture is a fuel tank vent hose that is loose in the boat. I was refitting and in the process of rerouting the vent hose to get rid of a low point in the hose when the picture was taken.
Sam you certainly know from experience that the H33 is full of spaces where no "normal" human being can operate but where the maintaining owner must somehow go and function. Around that cockpit drain hose is not even one of the worse. I did replace my hose several years ago as it was surface cracked (but not leaking) and don't remember it as being particularly difficult, as H33 maintenance goes but I do remember that that small piece of hose was ridiculously expensive. Certainly forming a fiberglass tube would have taken much more time and labor not to mention getting high on resin fumes in that small space and then worrying about that rigid tube everytime the boat shudders and pounds in a sea. At least on my 79 H33, Hunter did make the stubs so that the hose is removable and replaceable. I didn't even have to cut the hose to get the old one out. JLogan, it yours is sound but simply folded, you might be able to simply take it off, cut off a portion and reinstall. David, that small hose in my posted picture is a fuel tank vent hose that is loose in the boat. I was refitting and in the process of rerouting the vent hose to get rid of a low point in the hose when the picture was taken.
Terry, not that one but the other
hose that is mounted to a thur hull fitting or so it appears. In your picture, its almost inline with the large drain hose. I also noticed that you took that picture on the 9/11/2001 ... ever wish we could travel back in time? Thanks, David
hose that is mounted to a thur hull fitting or so it appears. In your picture, its almost inline with the large drain hose. I also noticed that you took that picture on the 9/11/2001 ... ever wish we could travel back in time? Thanks, David
exhaust outlet
David, that's the exhaust coming down from a gooseneck high in the lazarette and exiting at the throughhull that shows in the photo. I took a number of photos of the boat that morning of 9/11/01 blissfully ignorant of what was going on elsewhere.
David, that's the exhaust coming down from a gooseneck high in the lazarette and exiting at the throughhull that shows in the photo. I took a number of photos of the boat that morning of 9/11/01 blissfully ignorant of what was going on elsewhere.
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