Re-posted for the new year! Phil, I've never posted directly to you before, but thanks for making this site happen. I had no idea that I'd be able to find friends, get, and share ideas with so many other sailors. It is one of my favorite breaks during my day to check and see who wrote what about the thing I like second best in life (you need a woman before you need a boat, I say)! Best wishes and my heartfelt thankyou! Ron Hughes Commodore, Hunter Sailing Assn. of Oregon, and skipper of the venerable H 40.5 Best Revenge.