sorry to post this twice, last one was a continuation of an earlier posted thread (about mast light wiring,) on this rainy, humid, no wind, thunderstorm day i had planned to be sailing. confined to my desk chair instead, where the radar shows 75 miles of thunderstorms to the west i have ordered new halyards to reach the cockpit on a hunter 23, 1988, an important project since I sail singlehanded frequently on a gusty lake where the wind changes directions and speed, unannounced, frequently. 1. to reinforce the cabin celing where i will locate the winch and cleats i am thinking of building a 1/2 inch or so teak or mahogany plate , probably 4 inches x 8 inches to accommodate cleats and winch in one plate, and recessing holes for the bolts and nuts to avoid hitting exposed bolts with my noggin, cabin celing is carpeted, the other option i considered would be to have someone build a stainless steel plate 1/4 or 3/8 thick and thread it to accept the bolts? both the cost and the necessary precision of threaded hole locations, as well as the depth of the bolts,seems problematic. 2. assume i should do the same where i locate the block to run the halyards through about a foot to the starboard of the mast step? do i need this much reinforcement or will large washers with some sort of a cap on the nuts and bolts be sufficient? 3. can i take the existing winch off the mast and re use it on the cabin roof? 4. when i do this should i rig a downhaul as well and if so for the jib as well as the main? would appreciate suggestions as to the size of the plates or other thoughts. i have not yet ordered the cleats or the winch or the eyelets through which i will run the halyards. jim
halyards to cockpit?
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If you want to come see it, My 23 is set up for single-handing and is in rochester! At the very least(i didn't do it) I can show you what should be different as well. Here's a thought though - the pull of the winches and cleats is going to be purely horizontal, not vertical. Mine has seemed to be fine just through-bolted through the cabintop- it's pretty thick! the winch IS the one off of the mast. A jib downhaul would be nice (i don't have one), as for the mainsail, it's pretty close to the cockpit. Your call. ps: I was out yesterday on lake ontario. It was incredible! 15 knots or so, 3' chop. reefed main and a 110 up front was absolutley SMOKIN upwind!
If you want to come see it, My 23 is set up for single-handing and is in rochester! At the very least(i didn't do it) I can show you what should be different as well. Here's a thought though - the pull of the winches and cleats is going to be purely horizontal, not vertical. Mine has seemed to be fine just through-bolted through the cabintop- it's pretty thick! the winch IS the one off of the mast. A jib downhaul would be nice (i don't have one), as for the mainsail, it's pretty close to the cockpit. Your call. ps: I was out yesterday on lake ontario. It was incredible! 15 knots or so, 3' chop. reefed main and a 110 up front was absolutley SMOKIN upwind!
Cabintop Winch & sheet stoppers
Check out the photos in this site under the Hunter 23 pictures, page 3 of 4 "Roz-Summer Evening Sail". Shows some decent detail on how to run the halyards, though I'd have tried to use a two sheav line organizer instead of two fairleads. For the loads you could expect, fender washers and acorn nuts on the interior should be OK if the deck has any plywood in it as the load is mostly horizontal to the deck. Larger hunters do have 1/4" aluminum backing plates under the line organizers and winches built into the decks. The point where the vertical halyard load turns down from the mast to horizontal thru a sheav or turning blockat the mast base should probably be attached to the mast itself. I'd expect you wouldn't need the winch for halyards unless the last foot or so is a problem; however, you might consider running a reef line alongside the halyards and using a two medium and one small sheet stopper.
Check out the photos in this site under the Hunter 23 pictures, page 3 of 4 "Roz-Summer Evening Sail". Shows some decent detail on how to run the halyards, though I'd have tried to use a two sheav line organizer instead of two fairleads. For the loads you could expect, fender washers and acorn nuts on the interior should be OK if the deck has any plywood in it as the load is mostly horizontal to the deck. Larger hunters do have 1/4" aluminum backing plates under the line organizers and winches built into the decks. The point where the vertical halyard load turns down from the mast to horizontal thru a sheav or turning blockat the mast base should probably be attached to the mast itself. I'd expect you wouldn't need the winch for halyards unless the last foot or so is a problem; however, you might consider running a reef line alongside the halyards and using a two medium and one small sheet stopper.
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thanks for the photos, great photos. i note you have installed the winch and am tempted to go that route, for the last 6 inches or so. i was surprised to see your halyards running along the port side, my halyards, both jib and mainsail exit the mast on the starboard and i assume i will stay starborad, it does not look as though you ran arround the mast? thanks again, picutre worth a thousand words jim
thanks for the photos, great photos. i note you have installed the winch and am tempted to go that route, for the last 6 inches or so. i was surprised to see your halyards running along the port side, my halyards, both jib and mainsail exit the mast on the starboard and i assume i will stay starborad, it does not look as though you ran arround the mast? thanks again, picutre worth a thousand words jim
Halyards to pit
I did this about 6 months ago and have been out in 18 knts winds and 6 ft seas. I moved the winch from the mast to the cabin top using only bolts and washers and have had no problems so far. My 87 23's halyards exit the mast from the front of the mast as well as from about 10 o'clock on the port side of the mast. So, I installed a block on the mast with rivets and a turning block on the deck next to the mast with bolts and washers to take the halyards to a deck mounted organizer, again bolts and washers, which turn toward the winch through a double rope clutch in between. Works great. But, there is more drag on the lines with all the equipment so the halyard have to be pulled down. Also installed a down haul for the jib. But there does not seem to be any problems so far with using bolts and washers.
I did this about 6 months ago and have been out in 18 knts winds and 6 ft seas. I moved the winch from the mast to the cabin top using only bolts and washers and have had no problems so far. My 87 23's halyards exit the mast from the front of the mast as well as from about 10 o'clock on the port side of the mast. So, I installed a block on the mast with rivets and a turning block on the deck next to the mast with bolts and washers to take the halyards to a deck mounted organizer, again bolts and washers, which turn toward the winch through a double rope clutch in between. Works great. But, there is more drag on the lines with all the equipment so the halyard have to be pulled down. Also installed a down haul for the jib. But there does not seem to be any problems so far with using bolts and washers.
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