Hairline cracks in gel coat.

Aug 23, 2016
4
Lancer 30 Niceville, FL
Hey guys, new to the site and seeking some very valuable knowledge. I have a few cracks in my gel coat, and some I suspect to be more of the structural integrity. The process of making a fiber glass repair is not too difficult to follow for me but the minor cracks are what I am mostly trying to take care of. I understand that west Marine sells a product called crack cure or creating crack cure. I am very hesitant on trying the product out simply because it seems that it is too easy to use. And I will be painting over the repair area when the boat gets to that stage of restoration.

I am adding two pictures of the areas for example. The non skid area in cockpit and the other on bow.

Thanks in advance for your help.
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Feb 20, 2011
8,048
Island Packet 35 Tucson, AZ/San Carlos, MX
I understand that west Marine sells a product called crack cure or creating crack cure.
Welcome, Michael.
You could perform a search of these forums for "Captain (or Cap'n) Tully's creeping crack cure".

You might also post your question on the "Ask all sailors" forum. More folks will see it there.
 
Nov 2, 2015
196
hunter 30 bat n.c.
I have the same problem in the same area while I can't advise ya I plan to do a complete fiberglass repair! Way to many cracks not to be concerned about
 

JamesG161

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Feb 14, 2014
7,745
Hunter 430 Waveland, MS
That appears to be "gel coat" age/stress cracks. IMHO nothing you show is shocking or Fiberglass structure exposed to weathering, yet.
Jim...
 
Sep 23, 2009
1,475
O'Day 34-At Last Rock Hall, Md
Anyone have any experience and pics of a finished tolly repair? Understand that it is good at penetrating, what does the surface look like.
 
Aug 1, 2011
3,972
Catalina 270 255 Wabamun. Welcome to the marina
Maybe @Phil Herring can move it.
You should also be considering the divots. Water, being the insidious stuff that it is, can get between the gelcoat and fiberglass.
 
Sep 8, 2014
2,551
Catalina 22 Swing Keel San Diego
Sorry guys, Cap'n Tolley's will do nothing for those cracks. The creeping crack cure is actually water based and intended for wood. It won't even penetrate fiberglass and only sticks lightly to it. The cracks in the pictures are know as 'crazing' most commonly and are caused by a number of factors. As Jim mentioned age and stress are two of them, UV plays a role as well. Stress in high flex areas is most common, even in new boats. Fiberglass does flex, one of the best characteristics of the material is flexing rather than cracking... But the gelcoat over it is much harder and therefore a more brittle substrate, so if the fiberglass underneath it flexes more than the gelcoat can handle it will it crack. Age and UV exposure can accelerate this. Cool nights and rapid warming in the tropical sun takes its toll. Notice how the big crack appears near the 60 degree incline from the deck to the cabin? Hard turns like this, especially 90's, are where they are common. You'll also find them around areas where hardware is mounted; cleats, chainplates, etc.
The best repair is to grind the crack all the way to the fiberglass with an engraving bit on a dremel tool, then fill the crack with polyester gelcoat paste that is color matched. Spectrum Color sells 2oz jars for $25 that is color matched to most major brands. Two oz will fill many, many feet of cracks. Even a sloppy application is easy to make pretty by sanding and wet sanding then buffing, very user friendly.
For the non-skid, its more of a pain. To fit it correctly you have to buy the female mold pattern that matches your non-skid, Flex-o-mold I believe is the trade name. Its like $50 for a sheet and more of a pain than its worth. I think most people are better off grinding and filling cracks in the white smooth areas of the boat, and then sand the nonskid down and roll on Kiwi Grip.
 
Feb 20, 2011
8,048
Island Packet 35 Tucson, AZ/San Carlos, MX
The best repair is to grind the crack all the way to the fiberglass with an engraving bit on a dremel tool, then fill the crack with polyester gelcoat paste that is color matched.
The OP's gonna paint, anyway. No real need to color match beyond generic white or light blue.
 
Jan 19, 2010
12,553
Hobie 16 & Rhodes 22 Skeeter Charleston
Id sand it some to get good adhesion then paint one coat of two part barrier coat followed by an enamel anti-skid. Enamel will protect the epoxy from UV and anti skid will hide the cracks
 

Gunni

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Mar 16, 2010
5,937
Beneteau 411 Oceanis Annapolis
Your first photo is a common gelcoat stress crack. The second photo suggests that you have a soft deck situation and the multi-cracked gelcoat is not supported by a properly robust under lying laminate. Make sure your deck/cockpit can handle the load or those cracks will come back.
 
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Apr 11, 2017
571
Catalina C22 Solomon's Island, MD
I know this is an old thread - but has anyone ever tried something like TotalBoat penetrating epoxy, for sealing hairline gelcoat cracks?

I have several small gelcoat flex cracks along the cockpit sole of a 22 foot sailboat. I believe the penetrating epoxy dries with an amber type color if it is thick, but as it happens, the gelcoat is tan in that area anyway. I'm not too worried about the hairline cracks themselves, or the slight color mismatch - but I'd like to prevent any water from seeping into the cracks if possible. I know the preferred method is to grind out and widen the cracks, and fill with new gelcoat, but it seems this might be an effective and quick fix for an older boat. I'd probably thin the penetrating epoxy with denatured alcohol, or something similar, up to the max recommended in the epoxy mixing instructions.

Just thought I'd ask if anyone else has ever tried a fix like this..
 
Aug 1, 2011
3,972
Catalina 270 255 Wabamun. Welcome to the marina
As may have been already stated, epoxy has lousy UV qualities. This should be a guiding practise. Th fill should always be capped with gelcoat, which does have UV properties, even of the layer is only paint-like.
 
Sep 8, 2014
2,551
Catalina 22 Swing Keel San Diego
Spectrum Color Gel Coat Paste... color matched to your boat by model and year. A 2 oz jar for $25 will fill A LOT of cracks after you grind them out with an engraving bit on a dremel tool. The Spectrum Gel Coat Paste is thickened, so its easy to fill the cracks a little proud and sand smooth, then wet sand and polish. If the crack is in the non skid area, carefully grind the crack only as little as required and try to fill the crack level or only very lightly proud. Sand with 220 to knock off the sheen and level, don't bother to polish as you want it flat. Repairing gelcoat cracks in a nonskid pattern is a bear, I'd rather sand all of it near flat with 60 grit and Kiwi Grip all the non-skid sections... worked for me.
 

pfaffk

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Mar 4, 2011
52
Hunter 290 Haverstraw
I had similar stress cracks in the gel coat of my 2001 Hunter 290, and I repaired all of them myself. Doing the repair may seem difficult, and I put it off for years but fixing it is not that hard. 1.) You need to etch out the cracks, I used a dental and a dremmel. 2) Clean with acetone 3) Mix up and apply Gel coat. 4) if the Gel coat does not have wax in it you need to cover with a mold release to keep air out so it can cure 5) Next day wet sand withe 400, 600, 800, and 1000 grit sand paper 5) Apply compound. I had never done this before and the results surprised me as I cannot even tell where the repairs were made.
 
Apr 11, 2017
571
Catalina C22 Solomon's Island, MD
Thanks everyone - good people on this forum.

I've got this project on the list next-
 
Oct 10, 2011
619
Tartan 34C Toms River, New Jersey
The second photo is definitely a soft spot in the deck. I assume the balsa core got wet and rotted. Looks like you have some deck repair. It's note to difficult I had to do it on my old girl. There are lots of video on the subject.
 
Jun 8, 2004
10,381
-na -NA Anywhere USA
Sometimes matching gel coat can be hard if inexperienced. If you do, remember that gel coat in essence is oil based. West Marine sells oil based pigments in small quantities. Remember do not use the pigments for water based paints. Also the mfg of a gel coat will tell you that you have to use there pigments which is bunk. The ingredients for gel coats might differ some but the pigments will work in any gel coat but shake up the paint before applying to ensure the pigment is spread out in the gel coat. The advice to cover with a mold release is very true as the gel coat in air only will not dry. You can spray the mold release on or do what most do apply it into the gel. I have heard of saran wrap or wax paper being put on top so the gel is not in air. Never did that so I cannot help you there on the saran wrap or wax paper. Take a photo when finished.