I purchased Starbaby with one Headsail, looks like a 110% Genoa to me. Anyway its not a lot of headsail and the boat could stand up to more sail in light airs. Anyone out there sailing an H36 using a larger headsail? What size and how do you use it?
H36 Head Sails
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If this is a new H36 then the power is in the mainsail not the jib. Not sure what the jib is, whether a 110 or 100% Jim S/V Java
If this is a new H36 then the power is in the mainsail not the jib. Not sure what the jib is, whether a 110 or 100% Jim S/V Java
36 head sail
Jim is right. On the 356 and the 36 the power is in the mainsail, although I concur in light air the boat is slow. However, with a little wind, you will find these boats are fast and can really point into the wind. I have done okay racing my 356 in club races, 2nd overall in 2005 and 3rd overall in 2006. Not bad for a boat the club has dubbed the "Hilton." If you want a larger sail, I suggest a non-symetrical drifter or the like.
Jim is right. On the 356 and the 36 the power is in the mainsail, although I concur in light air the boat is slow. However, with a little wind, you will find these boats are fast and can really point into the wind. I have done okay racing my 356 in club races, 2nd overall in 2005 and 3rd overall in 2006. Not bad for a boat the club has dubbed the "Hilton." If you want a larger sail, I suggest a non-symetrical drifter or the like.
Bigger than 110%
Previous owner replaced the 110% headsail with a North sail / Harken roller furling setup that works great. I think the head sail is at least 140%. Don't have the records handy but will look up to get details when I get a chance. Am still sailing with the original Johnson mainsail. Would really like to replace it but the admiral has yet to approve the budget. Mike s/v Charisma 82 H36 cher
Previous owner replaced the 110% headsail with a North sail / Harken roller furling setup that works great. I think the head sail is at least 140%. Don't have the records handy but will look up to get details when I get a chance. Am still sailing with the original Johnson mainsail. Would really like to replace it but the admiral has yet to approve the budget. Mike s/v Charisma 82 H36 cher
H36 Cherubini Head Sail
Ross, Again, have not had a chance to get the head sail info that I think is on the boat. When I get it I'll pass what info I can. When fully unfurled and on a close reach, the clew of the sail comes well aft of the mast. I'ld say 1/2 between the mast and the main sheet traveler as a guess. It has two furling marks along the foot of the sail to gage the amount of furling. I think the first mark takes it close to 110% and the second mark a little under 100%. Sailing on Lake Coeur d'Alene is mostly in light winds below 10 kts in July-August time frame. Wind direction varies a lot but predominantly from the southwest. During other times of the season, wind speed and direction can be all over the place. Most challenging day was being single-handed when the weather went sour and sustained winds of 15-20 kts ramped quickly to the 30-35 kts range. I was able to furl the head sail to nothing more than a little triangle and put a reef in the main sail when above 20 kts (would have put two in but at the time the second, deeper reef point was not rigged). Reefing that mainsail does wonders for helm control on our H36. I routinely put a reef in when in the 15-20 kts range. Boat sails upright, calm and controlled, with little loss of speed. Besides, the admiral does NOT like heeling! BTW, I see you are located in Kewaunee, WI. I occasionally work at the Kewaunee NPS just down the road from you. No trips to KPS are planned as of yet. I can be reached at cielmike@aol.com. If you send me your email address, I'll send some info. Would be interested in hearing of any modifications you have made to your H36 and how she responds on the big fresh water ocean. Mike s/v Charisma 82 H36 cherubini
Ross, Again, have not had a chance to get the head sail info that I think is on the boat. When I get it I'll pass what info I can. When fully unfurled and on a close reach, the clew of the sail comes well aft of the mast. I'ld say 1/2 between the mast and the main sheet traveler as a guess. It has two furling marks along the foot of the sail to gage the amount of furling. I think the first mark takes it close to 110% and the second mark a little under 100%. Sailing on Lake Coeur d'Alene is mostly in light winds below 10 kts in July-August time frame. Wind direction varies a lot but predominantly from the southwest. During other times of the season, wind speed and direction can be all over the place. Most challenging day was being single-handed when the weather went sour and sustained winds of 15-20 kts ramped quickly to the 30-35 kts range. I was able to furl the head sail to nothing more than a little triangle and put a reef in the main sail when above 20 kts (would have put two in but at the time the second, deeper reef point was not rigged). Reefing that mainsail does wonders for helm control on our H36. I routinely put a reef in when in the 15-20 kts range. Boat sails upright, calm and controlled, with little loss of speed. Besides, the admiral does NOT like heeling! BTW, I see you are located in Kewaunee, WI. I occasionally work at the Kewaunee NPS just down the road from you. No trips to KPS are planned as of yet. I can be reached at cielmike@aol.com. If you send me your email address, I'll send some info. Would be interested in hearing of any modifications you have made to your H36 and how she responds on the big fresh water ocean. Mike s/v Charisma 82 H36 cherubini
Genaker
Ross - forgot to mention that my estimate of our H36 head sail size is in comparison to the picture of your H36 shown in your post. Also, in the light wind season on Coeur d'Alene, we have a North genaker that has worked really well. Unfortunately, I sail mostly single-handed and deploying and retrieving the genaker is a bit challenging. Lake Coeur d'Alene is a fairly big lake but has a lot of bays and branches. Open areas are in the 5 to 10 mile size; so, once I get the genaker hoisted and set, it is not that long before I have to tack or retrieve it. I plan to make a couple changes to the genaker rigging to make it easier to work with. Mike s/v Charisma 82 H36 cherubini
Ross - forgot to mention that my estimate of our H36 head sail size is in comparison to the picture of your H36 shown in your post. Also, in the light wind season on Coeur d'Alene, we have a North genaker that has worked really well. Unfortunately, I sail mostly single-handed and deploying and retrieving the genaker is a bit challenging. Lake Coeur d'Alene is a fairly big lake but has a lot of bays and branches. Open areas are in the 5 to 10 mile size; so, once I get the genaker hoisted and set, it is not that long before I have to tack or retrieve it. I plan to make a couple changes to the genaker rigging to make it easier to work with. Mike s/v Charisma 82 H36 cherubini
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