H340 Midship Cleat Access

Mar 16, 2023
6
Hunter 340 Tierra Verde, FL
My 1999 Hunter 340 has six YS 10" 2-hole cleats (3 on each side). The stern cleats have thru-bolts attached to nuts with lock washers and are readily accessible from the cockpit lazarettes, making for easy removal. The mid-ship cleats are another story. They also appear to be mounted via thru bolts and nuts, because I'm able to turn the screws from the deck but they will not come off, they keep spinning. So I'm trying to figure out how to access the nuts. I tried to access the port cleat from inside the galley pantry, but the plywood sides are in the way. Same situation trying to access from the microwave enclosure. Before I start cutting plywood, does anyone know the proper way to access the nuts? Thank you all!
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Jan 4, 2006
7,011
Hunter 310 West Vancouver, B.C.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but there are no nuts. The machine screws you see are screwed into a 3/8" aluminum plate to make assembly of the boat easier.

If and when I were to run into the same situation, my first steps would be to :

- drill a hole into the centre of the screw
- use an easy out to "hopefully" be able to remove the screw
- thread the aluminum plate with the next largest screw size
- insert the next largest machine screw size.

Lots of work. Compare that to removing the interior cabinetry and make your decision plus the fact it will look like hell after you replace the cabinetry.
 
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Mar 16, 2023
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Hunter 340 Tierra Verde, FL
Thank you Ralph, the aluminum plate design may be good news since it'll keep me from destroying the cabinetry only to find out there are no nuts...
 
Feb 10, 2004
4,069
Hunter 40.5 Warwick, RI
So if the bolts just spin without backing out, that means that the aluminum plate is stripped. I can't see how an EZout would work. Can you get the tip of a knife under the bolt head to lift as you slowly turn?
And why do you need to remove the cleats in the first place?
 
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Mar 16, 2023
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Hunter 340 Tierra Verde, FL
Rich: there's not enough space to stick something under the screw head, but I plan to try remove the other screw so I can lift the cleat and get screw out. I'm looking to replace the cleat as it's beat up.
 
Jan 4, 2006
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Hunter 310 West Vancouver, B.C.
I can't see how an EZout would work.
Picky, picky, picky. OK, I'm back to the drawing board.

I'm looking to replace the cleat as it's beat up.
Seeing as how you're deep-sixing the cleat, how about cutting into the cleat just under the machine screw head so you can get a blade screw driver under the head and pry up while screwing CCW ? If that doesn't lift out the screw, go with the easy out while holding on to the screw. And yes, as others have pointed out, you can't drive the easy out into the screw unless the screw is held tight.
 
Mar 6, 2008
1,237
Catalina 1999 C36 MKII #1787 Coyote Point Marina, CA.
Ralph has an ingenious idea. But I would cut the cleat just under the head all the way through. This will allow you to remove the cleat since the screw is not threaded into the cleat. The remaining screw you can put two nuts on each and tighten them onto each other and turn the bottom one and pull the screw upwards with a claw hammer.
 
Jan 4, 2006
7,011
Hunter 310 West Vancouver, B.C.
The remaining screw you can put two nuts on each and tighten them onto each other and turn the bottom one and pull the screw upwards with a claw hammer.
Waaaaaaaaay to simple.
Do it that way and there's nothing left to argue about.
 
Apr 12, 2007
198
Hunter 420 Herrington Harbor South
Why not just polish up the cleat? It doesn't look that bad :)
 
Mar 16, 2023
6
Hunter 340 Tierra Verde, FL
DRhoads I did polish it already, cleat is hard anodized aluminum so big gouges can't be buffed out without taking the anodized finish off. It's looking like that's as good as it's going to get.
 
Feb 10, 2004
4,069
Hunter 40.5 Warwick, RI
It's a 25 year old boat. Not everything is going to be pristine. The photo of your cleat looks pretty good to me, and it looks like it would function correctly.
IMHO, I would live with it and find something else to fix.
 
Dec 25, 2000
5,863
Hunter Passage 42 Shelter Bay, WA
DRhoads I did polish it already, cleat is hard anodized aluminum so big gouges can't be buffed out without taking the anodized finish off. It's looking like that's as good as it's going to get.
Photo shows the cleat looking pretty good. Unlikely that it is aluminum. Hunter -pretty consistently used SS cleats. Suggested ways to remove stripped out machine screw seem reasonable.
 
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