H33C running rigging

[fiestaMojo]

The PO left me a bag that was supposed to be all the lines; I think all it is are dock lines. What should I have for the running rigging; my experience is with a 26 footer - I used 3/8" lines. What about for this 33? Also I can't locate the snatch blocks that were supposed to come with this boat, what size blocks should I have for the jib sheets?

 

[SamLust]

All of my sheets and halyards are 7/16" just for the hand comfort. 1/2" seems a bit overboard, 3/8" a bit small for the hand. Vang and outhaul are 3/8", furler is cored 3/8" (That is core only on the portion that rolls up un the furler.Reefing lines are a bit smaller, 5/16 I think. Lengths you're on your own, although I think my halyards are 110' coming back to the cockpit.

My main halyard is Sta-set X and I wouldn't bother with it again. Regular Sta-Set is just fine on all the others. Main sheet is Regatta. Nice feel and won't hockle, but doesn't come off the self tailer perfectly, but it never bothered me. Jib sheets are some sort of fuzzy covered stuff, I think Samson, again nice feel.

 

[fiestaMojo]

thanks, Sam. . . I was beginning to wonder - I hadn't seen you on in awhile. The outhaul is internal, correct? Does it terminate in wire rope at the aft end o' the boom? Is the topping lift also internal? My "new" old 33 does not have a vang (yet). What size are your jib sheet snatch blocks? Again, thanks Sam

 

[rardiH36]

Just to mention another alternative to snatch blocks (which are really expensive) for the toe rail jib sheet fairleads. If you have some extra standard type blocks around (say 2.5" or 3" single) as I did, attach large enough snap shackles to the blocks. If the block has a swivel already then the snap shackle can be the non-swivel type. Pull on the snap shackle pin and the block assembly can be moved fore/aft along the toe rail. The main drawback to this alternative is that real snatch blocks usually are sheathed in rubber so they can bang around without damaging the deck. For my alternative, I coated the edges of the standard blocks with a brush-on rubber coating (such as plasti dip which is available at many home improvement stores) and deck damage really hasn't been a problem for me.

 

[SamLust]

I'm always around. I just keep my mouth shut until I have something I think is worth saying and someone else reading.

The outhaul is a two block system inside the boom. About a 3:1 purchase if I recall. If you look about a foot aft of the goose neck you'll see a bolt going across. This anchors one of the blocks. The wire is attached to the bail of the other block I think I used 5/16" double braid. I got rid of the topping lift so long ago I have no recollection what kind of arrangement it was. I installed a Garhauer solid vang within a couple of seasons of buying the boat. I think it was a standard wire coming down from the masthead with a small block of some sort with a simple rope arrangement Not very neat or effective. It was not internal as I recall.

I installed genoa track on the decks so I don't use the snatch blocks. They're not really snatch blocks. Snatch blocks snap or twist open allowing you to drop the sheet in and capture it without having to reeve it through. A simple block with a snap shackle works just fine at a much lower cost. Garhauer offers pretty much all of their blocks with snap shackles.

 

[fiestaMojo]

Sam - how did you mount genoa tracks? there isn't much room outboard of the shrouds, seems like not enough room for tracks. . .

 

[fiestaMojo]

sheet lengths

the online store here has a neat feature that let me check what I'm guessing are the original specs, i.e. diameter & length. . . for the mainsheet they specify 1/2" x 80', this seems a bit long; for the jib sheets they specify 7/16" x 50' each, which sounds reasonable. . . any thoughts? I like the suggestion about the blocks with snap shackle attachments as opposed to snatch blocks - Garheuar has some listed that look like they'll do the trick for about 40 bucks. . .

 

[SamLust]

My tracks are Garhauer, about 11 feet long, mounted on the side decks as close to the coachroof as possible. They extend from the chainplates back almost to the winch pods. My head sail is a 135 so the sheets pass outside of the shrouds. Sixty holes, thirty per side drilled, thickened epoxy filled and re-drilled. Strong and no leaks.

Pictures show it best. First is looking aft on the starboard side, Second is looking forward on starboard. second, smaller winch was added for better power on mid boom mainsheet traveler. Third shows Garhauer traveler mounted mid boom and Garhauer solid vang.

 

[jorgefife]

Sam,
I have you on my priority list for the panel; I am awaiting for a new batch of boats and I am sure I will find what you need (as per our chat a few weeks ago)
I am puzzled at the winch you have on starboard, almost next to the bigger one: is it side mounted?
Is it OK loke that?
Jorge

 

[SamLust]

I thought that winch would get to you Jorge. It is mounted using a Spartan Marine bronze winch base like you used to see on lots of older boats, especially those that had wooden coamings. With the mid boom traveler and the main sheet brought all the way back to the wheel the winch is the only way I can get the power to haul in tight on the main in a good breeze.

 

[fiestaMojo]

Hey Sam, I couldn't really tell from the pics you posted - how are your jib sheets run to the winches? I am considering putting cheek blocks at the end of the outside of the coamings to run the sheets thru before going to the winches (boy that is wordy!) any thoughts?

 

[SamLust]

Uh -- Ok. I figured out what you're asking. Jib sheets run through the Garhauer sliding blocks on the tracks, back to turning blocks attached to toe rail just outside of primary winches. In the middle picture above you can see the red jib sheet going out of the picture, through the block which is out of the pic, and then to the winch.

I'm late responding because I was on vacation with the Hunter 260 watching The Pamlico River do it's impression of a mirror. Not a breath of air for a week till I had the boat on the trailer ready to haul back to NJ!

Speaking of which the Hunter 260 is sold so Jorge, I no longer need that panel.