H30 cabin table removeable legs...NOT

malyea

malyea

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Dec 15, 2009
236
'87 Irwin 43 Sea Breeze
After 5 years we still love 'Bout Time ('82 H30) and plan to start on the next phase of her/our life...hauling her from Lake Allatoona, GA to St Augustine late this summer......but I digress...

She's configured with a cabin table that sits on two shiny metal legs that are designed to be removable so that the port settee can be pulled out to make a doubleish cabin berth....

Problem is - one leg is seriously stuck in the hole in the cabin sole and I can not pull it out. Carefully applied PB Blaster (didn't want to soak the cabin sole wood), yanked, wiggled, pulled....it's still stuck.

Thoughts, suggestions, experience, ideas?

Yes, that's her in the lead ;)
 

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Nelsonhow

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Jan 4, 2007
406
Hunter 30 Centerport
Mine was stuck too!

I have the same set up on my 1983 H30

The legs are just chrome plated steel not staimless. He ends get a little salt and start to rust in place. PB plaster and a little careful heat from a hair dryer will probably get them out. I did take the table top off first and it made it easier to wiggle the legs loose.
 
Dalliance

Dalliance

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Oct 6, 2007
1,141
Hunter H30 1982 Chicago IL
Funny, I'm having the exact same problem on my '82H30. It just hasn't been a priority yet. It was fine for years, then this year, stuck. Can't budge it. My only theory is that I may have gotten some dampness in the plywood sole and it has swollen enough to lock the leg in place, so I'm waiting to see if a cold dry winter on the hard resolves it.
In lieu of that - Maybe you could twist it out if you had something to provide enough leverage and grip without gouging or crushing the pipe? Just not sure what the right tool is to do that. Afraid I'm not much help. I'm sure someone here will know.
 
ggrizzard

ggrizzard

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May 27, 2004
2,055
Hunter 30_74-83 Ponce Inlet FL
After removing the table top from the posts, a strap wrench from Ace or Harbor Freight with an extension affixed to it's handle, plus continued application of PB Blaster on a couple of cold, low humidity days might get the pole out. A two person job, as you don't want to torque the base fitting out of round when exercising the pole.
 
malyea

malyea

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Dec 15, 2009
236
'87 Irwin 43 Sea Breeze
ggrizzard said:
A two person job, as you don't want to torque the base fitting out of round when exercising the pole.
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Thanks, good ideas...just not sure how making it a " two person job" will keep me from over torquing it......unless you mean my wife saying "remember what that guy told you" over and over ..... :naughty:
 
woodster

woodster

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Sep 15, 2009
6,243
S2 9.2a Fairhope Al
are those legs mounted in to a tapered socket on the floor if so take a rubber mallet and bang on the side ..one side the the opposing side then perpendicular and opposing again it will come loose with a little patience as for getting the table of of then just take the mallet and bang under the table in the upward direction first one leg and then the other this exercise always takes time
 
malyea

malyea

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Dec 15, 2009
236
'87 Irwin 43 Sea Breeze
woodster said:
are those legs mounted in to a tapered socket on the floor
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No, the manufacturer has cutout 2 round holes in the cabin sole, the legs are then inserted into those holes and seated about 4 or so inches below the sole....maybe into either a fiberglass receptacle or a metal receptacle fiberglassed into the hull pan.
 
rardiH36

rardiH36

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Jun 21, 2007
2,117
Hunter Cherubini 36_80-82 Sausalito / San Francisco Bay
I expect that my 1980 36 has the same table pole and fittings. (Picture of mine attached just to verify/compare.)

I haven't had the pole stuck problem, but while on the topic of:-

Several years ago, when I removed the tube's base fitting while refinishing the cabin floor, I noticed the beginning of cracks in it.

So just a thought that you might also take a good look at yours for signs of weakness. The material I would guess is maybe an aluminum/zinc alloy of some sort. With moisture settling down into the cup, a bit of galvanic corrosion might also be occurring. My base piece did have signs of pitting.

I had just assumed that a new one of these fittings would be hard to come by. So I didn't look and instead went the DIY repair route. I forget now the details of how I actually did it. But I do remember that I turned the fixture upside down on a work bench and sanded/cleaned the surface. Then I put over the fixture's "cup" a round plastic container with a diameter somewhat larger than the diameter of the "cup" and from which I cut off the bottom. Then I filled the area with several layers fiber reinforced West Systems epoxy. The several layers so to avoid a large volume of epoxy from kicking too fast and overheating.

I also reinforced from the top by gluing and screwing down a piece of metal sheet.

I'm sure other alternatives for fixing (if in need of) can be thought of.
 

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malyea

malyea

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Dec 15, 2009
236
'87 Irwin 43 Sea Breeze
Yes, that's the same leg(s) I have - I just have two and one is stuck, You're fix looks great.
 
kito

kito

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Sep 13, 2012
2,011
1979 Hunter Cherubini 30 Clemmons
I don't have any helpful advice but enjoying the pics of different Cherubini table layouts. Amazing how they differ from year to year. My 79 H30's table folds down from the bulkhead and the table leg is just barrel bolted to a hole in the sole.
 
rardiH36

rardiH36

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Jun 21, 2007
2,117
Hunter Cherubini 36_80-82 Sausalito / San Francisco Bay
kito said:
I don't have any helpful advice but enjoying the pics of different Cherubini table layouts. Amazing how they differ from year to year. My 79 H30's table folds down from the bulkhead and the table leg is just barrel bolted to a hole in the sole.
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Kito:

Yes, I concur very much with your observation. Almost incomprehensible to me the variations to the same function that Hunter employed not only between models but sometimes even for the same model in the same year but depending on hull # !

I wrote and posted my below #9 in the interim between the previous posts and when the original poster further described that his tubes went through the cabin sole veneer and into the FRP and maybe into a fitting 4" below. = Not even close to Hunter's construction/fitting method on my same year 1980 boat .... even though the chrome tube in the original poster's attached picture appeared the same as on my boat. When I read #9 I felt that I had wasted my time composing my message and responding.

And this is not the first time I have responded to my first impression that we all have similar fittings between the years and models.

So for me, I've now got a new personal policy for my Cherubini Hunter participation. I won't participate with any question I think I might add value without first getting from the original poster specific description of the layup he/she has on his/her Hunter Cherubini. Even if the original poster has a 1980 Cherubini 36 = my boat!
 
kito

kito

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Sep 13, 2012
2,011
1979 Hunter Cherubini 30 Clemmons
I know what you mean Rardi. It could be that these boats are an average of 35 years old and hard to tell an original Hunter design from a PO's bright idea. A good example is my post I made a few days ago about the v-berth bow bulkhead. Some had them and some didn't. I just thought I would share my info that cutting an access door in it is not a problem and opens up a nice storage area.
 
rardiH36

rardiH36

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Jun 21, 2007
2,117
Hunter Cherubini 36_80-82 Sausalito / San Francisco Bay
Alctel said:
rardi, is that a non-standard table? It looks smaller than mine
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Hi Actel:

Yes it is smaller. Actually we two have broached this subject before:

http://forums.hunter.sailboatowners.com/showthread.php?p=1130562&highlight=table

But to provide some more background: When I brought the original table home a number of years ago to try to repair/refinish the damaged surface, my wife and I noticed how much bigger and less crowded the whole salon area felt without the table in it. We use the boat almost always for day-sailing, so a large table wasn't really needed most of the time. So I made the smaller replacement you see in the picture. Large enough for putting down sandwiches and beer and potato chips for two. The original table it turns out is easily wedged out of the way over those side shelves in the v-berth area. And the new large shelf that it makes in that spot is great for storing soft stuff like sleeping bags. For those times we might want to use the original table (either as a table or to convert the starboard seats into a bed), the table is easily retrieved without fuss. Turned out to be a good modification for us.
 
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