Hi y'all! I've got 2 quick questions: #1 I'm trying to be able to raise the mast by myself and I'm 99% there. My only problem is how to "walk" the mast from the trailering position to the mast step. I made a mast support with a roller on it, but I have to let the spreaders roll over the roller, which scares me to death. If anyone solved that problem, PLEASE tell me how! There is no way I can carry the mast, the damn thing must weigh over 100 pounds! #2. Could someone take a couple of pictures of their keel and post them here or e-mail them to me? I have the '84 model, which I believe is the only one with the fiberglass centerboard and I'm very curious how the "other" keels look. I'm also considering removing of the centerboard and wonder how much up-wind performance will I loose. (if the keels look the same, probably not much...) Thanks a lot for any answers! Chris S/V Doghouse ckluczkowski@ato.com
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Ward Niffenegger
Archives
If you do an archive search on this forum you will find several methods for stepping the mast. There is a tripd and another is a ramp that you walk from the cockpit to the cabin roof. I think you will find something that may help you. I know it's possible cause I do it all the time. Good Luck Ward
If you do an archive search on this forum you will find several methods for stepping the mast. There is a tripd and another is a ramp that you walk from the cockpit to the cabin roof. I think you will find something that may help you. I know it's possible cause I do it all the time. Good Luck Ward
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Mike Epp
balance
I like the ramp............just made one (thanks Mike B). With this you can grab the mast in the middle (balanced) and walk it back. Although I'd suggest at least 2 people for the job.
I like the ramp............just made one (thanks Mike B). With this you can grab the mast in the middle (balanced) and walk it back. Although I'd suggest at least 2 people for the job.
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Jerry
Raising the mast
Actually the mast weighes 80 lb. On my '86, you crush the cabin hatch cover if you lower the mast to the travelling crutch. I have a 2nd crutch that I use to raise the aft mast support about 3 or 4 ft. The "V" isn't as deep as the travelling crutch. I line it with a piece of rug. From the front of the boat, I slide the mast back until I can put the first pin in the base of the mast. I have a 6 ft "stiff-leg" that mount at 90 deg. to the base of the mast with the jib halyard on one side and the mainsheet on the other side. I can easily raise and lower the mast myself. I'm making the "tripod" (actually a bipod) mentioned in the earlier response to keep the mast centered to the boat. Regards, Jerry
Actually the mast weighes 80 lb. On my '86, you crush the cabin hatch cover if you lower the mast to the travelling crutch. I have a 2nd crutch that I use to raise the aft mast support about 3 or 4 ft. The "V" isn't as deep as the travelling crutch. I line it with a piece of rug. From the front of the boat, I slide the mast back until I can put the first pin in the base of the mast. I have a 6 ft "stiff-leg" that mount at 90 deg. to the base of the mast with the jib halyard on one side and the mainsheet on the other side. I can easily raise and lower the mast myself. I'm making the "tripod" (actually a bipod) mentioned in the earlier response to keep the mast centered to the boat. Regards, Jerry
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John Sims
Keel
Chris, I also have the model with a centerboard. I have never sailed either on or against the wing keeled model but I can tell you with my centerboard down there is a BIG difference in upwind performance. Night and day. Don't have pictures for you but from the h23's I have seen in the boatyard the primary difference they have the "wings" on the bottom that stick out maybe a foot each way. Otherwise the overall size appears about the same. Maybe someone else can enlighten us further. But to answer your original question, I definately would not get rid of that centerboard. John Sims 85 h23 - No Name
Chris, I also have the model with a centerboard. I have never sailed either on or against the wing keeled model but I can tell you with my centerboard down there is a BIG difference in upwind performance. Night and day. Don't have pictures for you but from the h23's I have seen in the boatyard the primary difference they have the "wings" on the bottom that stick out maybe a foot each way. Otherwise the overall size appears about the same. Maybe someone else can enlighten us further. But to answer your original question, I definately would not get rid of that centerboard. John Sims 85 h23 - No Name
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Gary Bridi
Mast Raising
I hanve a 1992 H23 with a fixed keel, so I am assuming that your mast raising issue is not dirfferent from mine. I have a crutch that I assume came with the boat. It is a piece of 1/2 inch square stock inside a slightly smaller piece---One slides up and down over the other. There are holes through each which allows a pin to be inserted to raise or lower it to 5 or 6 different heights. When I raise the mast, I have a pretty easy time. I raise the crutch to max height ( about 4 ft above the cockpiot deck and walk the base forward and pin it to the mast step. After that, I use the spare jib halyard which I tie off to he mast cleat, and attache the other end to a line with an appripriate know. The lise is led aft to the jib winch and I use the winch to to raise (and lower in the fall) tha mast. I need one other person to steady the mast as it is raised and lowered. Hope this helps. Gary Bridi
I hanve a 1992 H23 with a fixed keel, so I am assuming that your mast raising issue is not dirfferent from mine. I have a crutch that I assume came with the boat. It is a piece of 1/2 inch square stock inside a slightly smaller piece---One slides up and down over the other. There are holes through each which allows a pin to be inserted to raise or lower it to 5 or 6 different heights. When I raise the mast, I have a pretty easy time. I raise the crutch to max height ( about 4 ft above the cockpiot deck and walk the base forward and pin it to the mast step. After that, I use the spare jib halyard which I tie off to he mast cleat, and attache the other end to a line with an appripriate know. The lise is led aft to the jib winch and I use the winch to to raise (and lower in the fall) tha mast. I need one other person to steady the mast as it is raised and lowered. Hope this helps. Gary Bridi
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A. Glasson
Back Y Bracket
I made a new "Y" bracket for the back of my 87/23 Hunter. I added about 3 inches to the top rudder attach point on the Y bracket. This put the Y back far enough where I did not have to raise the spreaders over the Y while stepping. I also added a roller between the Y. Now all I do is untie the mast, raise the Y support, tie off the Y support, roll the mast back, and pin the foot. I also installed a riser off the winch on the trailer with a roller at the top of the riser. I run the winch cable through the roller and attach to the forestay. I have my 12 year old crank the winch while I steady the mast and watch for cables getting caught. Put the motor and rudder on and we are ready to go. Our best time has been 20 min. for complete set up. This takes a good first mate on a good day!!!! Good Luck, Sarah 2
I made a new "Y" bracket for the back of my 87/23 Hunter. I added about 3 inches to the top rudder attach point on the Y bracket. This put the Y back far enough where I did not have to raise the spreaders over the Y while stepping. I also added a roller between the Y. Now all I do is untie the mast, raise the Y support, tie off the Y support, roll the mast back, and pin the foot. I also installed a riser off the winch on the trailer with a roller at the top of the riser. I run the winch cable through the roller and attach to the forestay. I have my 12 year old crank the winch while I steady the mast and watch for cables getting caught. Put the motor and rudder on and we are ready to go. Our best time has been 20 min. for complete set up. This takes a good first mate on a good day!!!! Good Luck, Sarah 2
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