When you buy a used boat from an individual, you're never REALLY sure that the way some things are rigged is exactly correct! Such is my case with my H23. My boat has an in-boom line on the port side which is clearly the out-haul. The starboard line terninates with an eye when it exits on the aft end of the boom. A 30" or so cable is clipped to the back stay just above the yoke. The other end, when clipped to the eye at the end of the boom makes this arrangement work as a topping lift, but the ability to adjust the length doesn't seem to me to serve any purpose. I think that this line should more correctly be used for reefing the main as well as a topping lift, but I haven't so far been able to visualize how this would work, OR, am I totally off base?
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Jon Bastien
Don't think that's the original design
On my H23, there were three lines from the end of the boom- -- The reefing line, port side. -- The outhaul, center (2:1 purchase) -- The topping lift, which connected to a rather long line attached to the masthead. There was no cable from the backstay on my boat. The line from the masthead had a loop in the end, to which the line from the boom was shackled. I think a previous owner may have modified your boat to eliminate the topping lift, and used the cable from the backstay to support the boom when the sail is down- Otherwise the boom would fall to the deck. The line in the boom would have to remain in place to have something to attach the cable to. If you keep this setup, you should disconnect that cable when you raise your mainsail. The topping lift was probably removed because it has a tendency to rub against the leech of the sail when you're underway, and this can seriously shorten the life of the sail. My sailmaker recommends disconnecting the topping lift when not in use, and attaching it to the backstay. --Jon Bastien H25 'Adagio'
On my H23, there were three lines from the end of the boom- -- The reefing line, port side. -- The outhaul, center (2:1 purchase) -- The topping lift, which connected to a rather long line attached to the masthead. There was no cable from the backstay on my boat. The line from the masthead had a loop in the end, to which the line from the boom was shackled. I think a previous owner may have modified your boat to eliminate the topping lift, and used the cable from the backstay to support the boom when the sail is down- Otherwise the boom would fall to the deck. The line in the boom would have to remain in place to have something to attach the cable to. If you keep this setup, you should disconnect that cable when you raise your mainsail. The topping lift was probably removed because it has a tendency to rub against the leech of the sail when you're underway, and this can seriously shorten the life of the sail. My sailmaker recommends disconnecting the topping lift when not in use, and attaching it to the backstay. --Jon Bastien H25 'Adagio'
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My 89h23 has port toppinglift, center outhaul, starboard reefing/ some people use these for different things ie, some people go with a kicker and use that line as a second reefing line , hope this helps, also check out archives there are a couple of good posts there about how to run reefing lines, good Luck Mike B
My 89h23 has port toppinglift, center outhaul, starboard reefing/ some people use these for different things ie, some people go with a kicker and use that line as a second reefing line , hope this helps, also check out archives there are a couple of good posts there about how to run reefing lines, good Luck Mike B
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Ernie Rogers
Oh! Now I see!!!
Thanks for the very prompt responses! When you know what you're looking for, it's a lot easier to figure out what's wrong! On closer inspection, the previous owner had the port line attached to the outhaul, the center attached to the topping lift, and there was not a starboard line at all! Apparently it broke, so rather than replace it, the last owner shifted the reef line to the outhaul, and the outhaul to the topping lift! Again, thanks for the info! Ernie Rogers H23 WhimsyII
Thanks for the very prompt responses! When you know what you're looking for, it's a lot easier to figure out what's wrong! On closer inspection, the previous owner had the port line attached to the outhaul, the center attached to the topping lift, and there was not a starboard line at all! Apparently it broke, so rather than replace it, the last owner shifted the reef line to the outhaul, and the outhaul to the topping lift! Again, thanks for the info! Ernie Rogers H23 WhimsyII
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Joe
H23 Reefing
I have my boom set up this way: The starboard side has a line that comes out of the end of the boom, around the pulley in the boom and then goes around a block with a becket and back to anchor on the boom. The topping lift is clipped to the becket of the pulley so that when the main is hoisted, I just slack the line so that the sail takes the weight of the boom. This way I don't have to unclip the topping lift and fasten it to something while the sail is up. The only time this doesn't work too well is when I have one of my mains up that has a much larger roach than the "stock" sail. The port side line is used for the reefing line, once through the pulley at the end of the boom it goes up through the reefing grommet in the sail and down to the boom where I tie it around the boom. This set up works well for both the topping lift and reef line 'cause all I have to do hold either line is to move the respective clamp lever at the mast end of the boom. The center line passes through a pulley in the center end of the boom which (its actually a cable)is used for the outhaul. The way I secure the boom when not sailing is with a tether at the end of the boom that I tie to one side of the back stay and at the same time move the main sheet traveler to the opposite side, this provides for an extremely secure way to keep the boom from swinging during high winds, etc. while at anchor. Hope this helps.
I have my boom set up this way: The starboard side has a line that comes out of the end of the boom, around the pulley in the boom and then goes around a block with a becket and back to anchor on the boom. The topping lift is clipped to the becket of the pulley so that when the main is hoisted, I just slack the line so that the sail takes the weight of the boom. This way I don't have to unclip the topping lift and fasten it to something while the sail is up. The only time this doesn't work too well is when I have one of my mains up that has a much larger roach than the "stock" sail. The port side line is used for the reefing line, once through the pulley at the end of the boom it goes up through the reefing grommet in the sail and down to the boom where I tie it around the boom. This set up works well for both the topping lift and reef line 'cause all I have to do hold either line is to move the respective clamp lever at the mast end of the boom. The center line passes through a pulley in the center end of the boom which (its actually a cable)is used for the outhaul. The way I secure the boom when not sailing is with a tether at the end of the boom that I tie to one side of the back stay and at the same time move the main sheet traveler to the opposite side, this provides for an extremely secure way to keep the boom from swinging during high winds, etc. while at anchor. Hope this helps.
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Mark
Our way?
We have our reef lines on the same side as the main halyard winch. For example on our 260 the main winch is on the starboard side so we always reef on a starboard tack. With the reef lines coming out the mast end of the boom on the starboard side means we don't have to climb along the leeward side. Hope this makes sence?
We have our reef lines on the same side as the main halyard winch. For example on our 260 the main winch is on the starboard side so we always reef on a starboard tack. With the reef lines coming out the mast end of the boom on the starboard side means we don't have to climb along the leeward side. Hope this makes sence?
Same as Mark's
The boom on my '88 H23 is rigged with all the controls and lines needed to reef the mainsail on the starboard side of the mast. It allows me to have the right of way when reefing. Now that the boat is on the trailer, I can see the value of a loop and snap shackle in the topping lift a few feet above the boom. It enables you to disconnect the boom completely from the mast and stow it below for trailering. Peter H23 "Raven"
The boom on my '88 H23 is rigged with all the controls and lines needed to reef the mainsail on the starboard side of the mast. It allows me to have the right of way when reefing. Now that the boat is on the trailer, I can see the value of a loop and snap shackle in the topping lift a few feet above the boom. It enables you to disconnect the boom completely from the mast and stow it below for trailering. Peter H23 "Raven"
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