I have come across a 1983 H22 fin keel for sale. As one new to boat buying, I'd appreciate any information of what to look for, any problems with this model, special maintenance items that are of concern, etc. There are a lot of extras (seemingly). The sails are old, there is a "soft spot" in the cockpit that needs glass work, the owner claims to have had no water except for a little rain leakage. Interior VERY clean. Hull painted 2Q2002. Fresh water for at least the last 12 years. All seems OK on the surface, but the boat seems fairly inexpensive (asking $4000, will take $3000) and that raises a flag of concern for me. I'll be lake sailing only and store dry on the trailer when not not in use. I'm NOT an experienced sailor (novice, at best), so ANY advice is greatly appreciated. Happy new year, Bill
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Bill, we have an 82 with the swing keel and have to say we love the boat. We paid roughly the same price which initially raised concern with me as well, but that seems to be about the going price for these. (with motor, no trailer) As a new sailor I'm sure you'll have someone look at the boat with some experience, that's what we did. Good luck with the boat, she's a fun one. Matter of fact, I'm running down to mine right now for a spin! dg (sea monkeys)
Bill, we have an 82 with the swing keel and have to say we love the boat. We paid roughly the same price which initially raised concern with me as well, but that seems to be about the going price for these. (with motor, no trailer) As a new sailor I'm sure you'll have someone look at the boat with some experience, that's what we did. Good luck with the boat, she's a fun one. Matter of fact, I'm running down to mine right now for a spin! dg (sea monkeys)
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No [working] motor, but with trailor. How necessary is a motor? I'm fairly new to this having spent most of my sailing time on Hobie 14's and 16's about 30 years ago.
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Recommend motor
The H-22 is a great boat. I have not sailed one with the fixed keel but expect it is maybe a little less tender and more stable. I'm not sure where you will be sailing in and out of but most marinas around me require boats to be under power when manuvering in the marina. Personally I would want one if the wind dies or if you have a problem with the rigging or halyards. It is also good to have sometimes when you need to get home fast before a storm. The price seems in the right range. The trailer, if in good condition, more than makes up for lack of a motor when considering price. Happy sailing
The H-22 is a great boat. I have not sailed one with the fixed keel but expect it is maybe a little less tender and more stable. I'm not sure where you will be sailing in and out of but most marinas around me require boats to be under power when manuvering in the marina. Personally I would want one if the wind dies or if you have a problem with the rigging or halyards. It is also good to have sometimes when you need to get home fast before a storm. The price seems in the right range. The trailer, if in good condition, more than makes up for lack of a motor when considering price. Happy sailing
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Bill, I was in the same boat( pardon the pun) as you a couple years ago. I sailed Hobies from the beach as a kid 20 or so years ago. Unless where you are going to keep/launch the boat is in an ideal place that you can sail in and out of, a motor is very important. Also, if you are lake sailing, winds can be iffy and it's hell to get stuck out there without the iron wind in the summer. You won't need much, we have 20 year old 7.5 Evinrude which is more than adequate. I imagine even an old long shaft 5 or so would work just fine. ( by the way, I still haven't headed out to the boat,winds are picking up to about 20 which is a wild ride in the 22'!!) d
Bill, I was in the same boat( pardon the pun) as you a couple years ago. I sailed Hobies from the beach as a kid 20 or so years ago. Unless where you are going to keep/launch the boat is in an ideal place that you can sail in and out of, a motor is very important. Also, if you are lake sailing, winds can be iffy and it's hell to get stuck out there without the iron wind in the summer. You won't need much, we have 20 year old 7.5 Evinrude which is more than adequate. I imagine even an old long shaft 5 or so would work just fine. ( by the way, I still haven't headed out to the boat,winds are picking up to about 20 which is a wild ride in the 22'!!) d
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One word, Survey
Bill, Hurricane Lilly almost sank my old SanJuan24, after the insurance Co said $1400 in damage, I paid a Marine Surveyour to have a closer look. His estimate was Totalled! I settled with Insurance Co for a much larger figure, and donated the boat to the previous owner. I am buying a 1981 Hunter22* from some very nice folks across the Bay, and they had no objection or qualms when I mentioned I wanted her Surveyed before I comitted. The $250 for the Survey paid for itself in 3 ways. 1. I now am buying a very good Hunter22 with trailer. 2. My Insurance is less because she passed a Survey. 3. I am now a confident owner of an almost 20 year old boat. Sure she needs a little work here and there, but then again don't all boats? The work she needs is purely Cosmetic and Extras that I am adding to her. Happy Sailing
Bill, Hurricane Lilly almost sank my old SanJuan24, after the insurance Co said $1400 in damage, I paid a Marine Surveyour to have a closer look. His estimate was Totalled! I settled with Insurance Co for a much larger figure, and donated the boat to the previous owner. I am buying a 1981 Hunter22* from some very nice folks across the Bay, and they had no objection or qualms when I mentioned I wanted her Surveyed before I comitted. The $250 for the Survey paid for itself in 3 ways. 1. I now am buying a very good Hunter22 with trailer. 2. My Insurance is less because she passed a Survey. 3. I am now a confident owner of an almost 20 year old boat. Sure she needs a little work here and there, but then again don't all boats? The work she needs is purely Cosmetic and Extras that I am adding to her. Happy Sailing
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Great boat - survey good idea
Bill; She is a great first boat. Bout same boat last year and the owner witheld several issues that I was too green to see for myself....fairly expensive things! Find the problems now and negotiate the cost to fix them into your paying price...Seth
Bill; She is a great first boat. Bout same boat last year and the owner witheld several issues that I was too green to see for myself....fairly expensive things! Find the problems now and negotiate the cost to fix them into your paying price...Seth
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OB Motor and an Oar
I have allways carried an Oar with me in EVERY boat I ever went out on. I have even Sculled my SJ-24,(Full Keel Cruiser/Racer) once when my OB would not start. As the Hull Speed on most of these boats averages between 5.2 and 6.3 Knots, no need to go Overboard with an Outboard. 4hp is minimum I would use because of Currents and Tides here. But that also applies if I were on a Lake. Don't Underpower it,,and in the same sentance do not overpower it. Any 4hp-9hp Long Shaft OB should suffice. I know of one fellow that uses a Minkota Electric on his SJ-24. But he is on a Lake and has Dual Batts with Solar Panels. Allways have your Ground Tackle at the ready, and allways have a Long Oar for Sculling.
I have allways carried an Oar with me in EVERY boat I ever went out on. I have even Sculled my SJ-24,(Full Keel Cruiser/Racer) once when my OB would not start. As the Hull Speed on most of these boats averages between 5.2 and 6.3 Knots, no need to go Overboard with an Outboard. 4hp is minimum I would use because of Currents and Tides here. But that also applies if I were on a Lake. Don't Underpower it,,and in the same sentance do not overpower it. Any 4hp-9hp Long Shaft OB should suffice. I know of one fellow that uses a Minkota Electric on his SJ-24. But he is on a Lake and has Dual Batts with Solar Panels. Allways have your Ground Tackle at the ready, and allways have a Long Oar for Sculling.
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Addendum to Get a Survey
You really do not have to pay for a survey, ,allthough it is advisable on any Boat Purchase. You could ask any Knowledgable Sailor to assist in that area, but a Proffesional Survey is allways the most advisable before any Boat Purchase.
You really do not have to pay for a survey, ,allthough it is advisable on any Boat Purchase. You could ask any Knowledgable Sailor to assist in that area, but a Proffesional Survey is allways the most advisable before any Boat Purchase.
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