Gril knowledge anyone?
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looks nice.
I can't find it on their website. can you?
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wc...Most Popular|0&pageSize=10&sType=SimpleSearch
I can't find it on their website. can you?
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wc...Most Popular|0&pageSize=10&sType=SimpleSearch
When I was younger I thought I knew everything about grils, but learned I did not. When I got married, I thought I would learn about grils...14 years and 2 daughters later I still know very, very little.
Saw this one at Lowes for $64. Looks decent not real heavy duty but I can't compare to the Magma since I haven't seen it.
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fwiw, I have the round rail model. its been flawless, but the design of the round grill gives it a hot spot in the center and cooler around the edges. you have to manage the space...
if you can find one of these...
http://www.foreandaftmarine.com/FO-83730.htm
but they stopped making that model. but I like it best. it stows well and even cooking.
if you can find one of these...
http://www.foreandaftmarine.com/FO-83730.htm
but they stopped making that model. but I like it best. it stows well and even cooking.
I'm sure Sum can fabricate something even better than Magma. As for me, I can just rig it using Magma mounting hardware.
the grill as shown in the photo is built of very light gauge stainless steel.... the lid is kinda flimsy and flexible as it does not have the extra heat shield/lid liner built into it...
another thing about the magma grills is, they are tested and designed to stay lit in the wind... regular outdoor grills are not, and usually will blow out in a bit of a shifty breeze.
I am assuming the one in question has no wind baffle to protect the flame.... but thats not to say it wont work or something couldnt be added.
harbor freight use to have one like this or almost identical to it, on their website...
one caution in buying an off brand stainless grill, the magma brand has a stainless burner... this is the only brand I know of that will stand up to the marine enviroment for any length of time... especially when grilling oysters in the shell. the salt will ruin a regular steel grill in a season of good use...
another thing about the magma grills is, they are tested and designed to stay lit in the wind... regular outdoor grills are not, and usually will blow out in a bit of a shifty breeze.
I am assuming the one in question has no wind baffle to protect the flame.... but thats not to say it wont work or something couldnt be added.
harbor freight use to have one like this or almost identical to it, on their website...
one caution in buying an off brand stainless grill, the magma brand has a stainless burner... this is the only brand I know of that will stand up to the marine enviroment for any length of time... especially when grilling oysters in the shell. the salt will ruin a regular steel grill in a season of good use...
My sister in law has that same grill. It has a "infra red" heating element that is rectangular and gets very hot. It seemed to be put together well enough, but the grilling area is small. Steaks for four get grilled two at a time. I would have preferred it get even hotter, but it was OK. BTW, I have a Magma on my boat and it's just OK too. I put lava rocks in the bottom to distribute the heat better. I am really more of a charcoal guy and don't own a gas grill except for the Magma.
My father worked with stainless steel and always said that a magnet will not stick to quality stainless. I've never tried this on the Magma or this grill, but there is definitely a difference in ss quality used out there.
My father worked with stainless steel and always said that a magnet will not stick to quality stainless. I've never tried this on the Magma or this grill, but there is definitely a difference in ss quality used out there.
The main differentiator with these grills is whether they are double walled or not.
Our round magma (double walled) is not affected by wind or low temperatures. It gets hot regardless (when many others won't).
Ou grill also uses much less propane than most - again, due to the double wall construction that keeps the heat in.
Further advantage is that with the grill removed it is an excellent stove. Great to cook messy stuff (like bacon) a you just close the lid down to the handle and nothing ends up on the gel coat.
After having several stoves I cannot say enough about our Magma - worth very penny.
Chris
Our round magma (double walled) is not affected by wind or low temperatures. It gets hot regardless (when many others won't).
Ou grill also uses much less propane than most - again, due to the double wall construction that keeps the heat in.
Further advantage is that with the grill removed it is an excellent stove. Great to cook messy stuff (like bacon) a you just close the lid down to the handle and nothing ends up on the gel coat.
After having several stoves I cannot say enough about our Magma - worth very penny.
Chris
PS regarding the Magma. The old models do not work as well. Besides being single walled they tend to have hot spots.
Our new Magma does not have hot spots but I did hear they had a production issue with some. The removeable burner dome was a little undersize and let flame through the edges - which created hot spots.
Chris
Our new Magma does not have hot spots but I did hear they had a production issue with some. The removeable burner dome was a little undersize and let flame through the edges - which created hot spots.
Chris
Sumner already has a Navy surplus nuclear reactor aboard for heat and power
Merry Christmas and Prosperous and safe New Year to you and yours.
how about cooking with Coal!!! Dont need none of that modern trickery stuff.
I wonder if this would fit across the head? Works best with a bit of chimney to get a good draw so might need to raise the boom a few feet. Not exactly a nuclear reactor but sort of close.
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Yosi, hope you got the info you needed regarding the grill from this thread since this post is way off topic.. but since you’re in the solar industry, might find this a little bit interesting.
That coal burring stove ended up being ornamental in this solar space heater experiment http://analogengineering.com/project/solar_space_heater.html
I’ve had this running (and its running right now) for the second year now in Denver and it cranks out free heat just about every day during the winter. Keeps the room its in nice and comfortable.
This system uses a small grid tie MPPT inverter and I’ve taken this inverter to the "lab" and verified that it is in fact MPPT (works well for that - but has an issue with lousy power factor at lower panel power).
I bought this inverter over the internet from a place in California. But.. not everything looks legal with it. It has a way to plug directly into the house AC 110V socket - but it has NO UL listing on the chassis. That is usually a no no for anything that plugs into AC.. could be an insurance issue if your house burns down. I don’t know if you can still get that inverter.. I suspect a few other shady legal things about it. But its been super simple and reliable.
That coal burring stove ended up being ornamental in this solar space heater experiment http://analogengineering.com/project/solar_space_heater.html
I’ve had this running (and its running right now) for the second year now in Denver and it cranks out free heat just about every day during the winter. Keeps the room its in nice and comfortable.
This system uses a small grid tie MPPT inverter and I’ve taken this inverter to the "lab" and verified that it is in fact MPPT (works well for that - but has an issue with lousy power factor at lower panel power).
I bought this inverter over the internet from a place in California. But.. not everything looks legal with it. It has a way to plug directly into the house AC 110V socket - but it has NO UL listing on the chassis. That is usually a no no for anything that plugs into AC.. could be an insurance issue if your house burns down. I don’t know if you can still get that inverter.. I suspect a few other shady legal things about it. But its been super simple and reliable.
Thanks for sharing Walt. I never heard of solar air heaters before. Rather interesting. As for the inverter, they all like to be driven close to their rating to be efficient. While we have tested enphase, we never had a commercial installation with them - just too expensive and customers don't see the value. The value really comes up when you have shading problem. I have shading problems at my own house and use Tigo boxes on each panel. The Tigo also enables me to monitor each Panel on my smartphone. Just a gimmick, but fun.
Surplus? I'd have figured he would have just fabbed up his own from spare race car parts.Sumner already has a Navy surplus nuclear reactor aboard for heat and power