Hi all. I need some guidance on classing over the drain plug. Can someone who has done it post some step by step instructions and a materials list.
Thanks,
Jack
Thanks,
Jack
Glassing the drain plug
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Why are you glassing the plug?Nicholas H. Walsh P.A.
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From: j.hunter9999
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 12:54 PM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AlbinVega] Glassing the drain plug
Hi all. I need some guidance on classing over the drain plug. Can someone who has done it post some step by step instructions and a materials list.
Thanks,
Jack
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Fax 207/774-3940
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From: j.hunter9999
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 12:54 PM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AlbinVega] Glassing the drain plug
Hi all. I need some guidance on classing over the drain plug. Can someone who has done it post some step by step instructions and a materials list.
Thanks,
Jack
I don't use it. Although I haul out every year, I have no problem getting any water out of the bilge. So, since its not being used, and since murphy's law dictates that it will someday leak, I figured I'd glass it over.
Jack
Jack
To properly glass it over you should grind a taper at the edges, at least an
6 to 1 ratio. Some say 8 to 1. If the hull is 1/2" thick you grind back for
3" all around for 6 to one. Using epoxy (not polyester as its secondary
bonding is not good) bond progressively smaller circles of biaxial roving to
the area, the smallest last, then fair with thickened epoxy. On the inside
grind around the hole as well and fill with thickened epoxy followed by a
layer or 2 of biax here as well. Cosmetics are less of an issue inside so
fairing isn't necessary. The same would be appropriate for glassing in a
through hull.
6 to 1 ratio. Some say 8 to 1. If the hull is 1/2" thick you grind back for
3" all around for 6 to one. Using epoxy (not polyester as its secondary
bonding is not good) bond progressively smaller circles of biaxial roving to
the area, the smallest last, then fair with thickened epoxy. On the inside
grind around the hole as well and fill with thickened epoxy followed by a
layer or 2 of biax here as well. Cosmetics are less of an issue inside so
fairing isn't necessary. The same would be appropriate for glassing in a
through hull.
Brian - Thanks for the information. However, based on the location of the plug, there is no way to actually grind and glass the inside. Also, the plug is so close to the bottom of the keel that 3 inches all the way around is not actually possible.
An easy solution is teh one I use.
I just clean around by the plug and cover it with a big blob of Polurethane Sealant/Adhesive. Stays on for years and only comes off if you really scrape it. Works for me.
Steve B
I just clean around by the plug and cover it with a big blob of Polurethane Sealant/Adhesive. Stays on for years and only comes off if you really scrape it. Works for me.
Steve B
I use the drain plug every year, I simply leave it out all winter when the boat
is ashore so that any rain water automatically drains out. It has never leaked
although as a precaution I fitted a replacement plug several years back. While on the subject of original features my original bilge pump in the after
end of the cockpit floor still works fine although I've noticed that many have
been taken out or glassed over.
Mike
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From: Steve Birch steve@...
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 1 April, 2011 12:02:26
Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] Re: Glassing the drain plug
An easy solution is teh one I use.
I just clean around by the plug and cover it with a big blob of Polurethane
Sealant/Adhesive. Stays on for years and only comes off if you really scrape it.
Works for me.
Steve B
is ashore so that any rain water automatically drains out. It has never leaked
although as a precaution I fitted a replacement plug several years back. While on the subject of original features my original bilge pump in the after
end of the cockpit floor still works fine although I've noticed that many have
been taken out or glassed over.
Mike
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From: Steve Birch steve@...
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 1 April, 2011 12:02:26
Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] Re: Glassing the drain plug
An easy solution is teh one I use.
I just clean around by the plug and cover it with a big blob of Polurethane
Sealant/Adhesive. Stays on for years and only comes off if you really scrape it.
Works for me.
Steve B
Wow! Thats a great idea! I tend to over-think and over-engineer everything. Thanks for the idea!
Jack
Bella - V2620
Jack
Bella - V2620
Umm, take a look at some boats in a marina in the north counry where it freezes in winter. Your boat is a 1975 model and stored inside for ten years, and so far it has never suffered "sinking on the hard" - that what happens to boats left on the hard that collect rain water due to a few years of neglect and collection of rain water into the bilge and gradually overflowing into the cabin - because it can't get out.
Personally, I think Albin was brilliant to put in a drain plug in the bilge - all plastic boats should have them. It helps to look at the long view - as in decades, instead of seasons and what effects there are from unintentional happenings - leaking IN instead of OUT.
Respectfully,
tv
Personally, I think Albin was brilliant to put in a drain plug in the bilge - all plastic boats should have them. It helps to look at the long view - as in decades, instead of seasons and what effects there are from unintentional happenings - leaking IN instead of OUT.
Respectfully,
tv
Honestly, the longer I own Journeyman (10 years now) the more I see how very carefully designed she is. I make all significant alterations only after I think I thoroughly understand the system or structure I am going to alter . . . and then I often decide to leave the boat alone. That drain plug is a beefy, damage resistant fitting, and especially if blobbed over with some 5200 or whatever (probably overkill) it is not going to make any trouble.
BTW, I wrap a bit of Teflon plumbing tape around the threads when I reinstall my plug each spring, works great at sealing it.Nicholas H. Walsh P.A.
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From: TristanV
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 11:43 AM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AlbinVega] Re: Glassing the drain plug
Umm, take a look at some boats in a marina in the north counry where it freezes in winter. Your boat is a 1975 model and stored inside for ten years, and so far it has never suffered "sinking on the hard" - that what happens to boats left on the hard that collect rain water due to a few years of neglect and collection of rain water into the bilge and gradually overflowing into the cabin - because it can't get out.
Personally, I think Albin was brilliant to put in a drain plug in the bilge - all plastic boats should have them. It helps to look at the long view - as in decades, instead of seasons and what effects there are from unintentional happenings - leaking IN instead of OUT.
Respectfully,
tv
BTW, I wrap a bit of Teflon plumbing tape around the threads when I reinstall my plug each spring, works great at sealing it.Nicholas H. Walsh P.A.
111 Commercial St.
Portland ME 04101
207/772-2191
Fax 207/774-3940
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From: TristanV
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 11:43 AM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AlbinVega] Re: Glassing the drain plug
Umm, take a look at some boats in a marina in the north counry where it freezes in winter. Your boat is a 1975 model and stored inside for ten years, and so far it has never suffered "sinking on the hard" - that what happens to boats left on the hard that collect rain water due to a few years of neglect and collection of rain water into the bilge and gradually overflowing into the cabin - because it can't get out.
Personally, I think Albin was brilliant to put in a drain plug in the bilge - all plastic boats should have them. It helps to look at the long view - as in decades, instead of seasons and what effects there are from unintentional happenings - leaking IN instead of OUT.
Respectfully,
tv