I have had my 25 for a year now and I have come to know how tender this boat can be. I have been using a 150% genoa which overpowers the boat in 12 knots of wind. My family love sailing but they are beginners and we have struggled to tack that 150. We do the beer can racing and local crusing. I have a 110% jib. Would anyone know how much speed I would give up by using the smaller sail? I assume the boat will be faster upwind since I will not be dumping or reefing the main. How bad does it hurt in lighter air? I am a racer at heart and I am trained to keep the most sail area up at all times. However, I like my family and want them to keep sailing. The smaller sail would help for them. Please advise.
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The same problem on the Oday 23
I have an Oday 23 and faced the same problem as you describe. The "problem" was solved for me when I installed roller furling. My intention was to have my 150 genny adapted for the furler, and I would just roll out as much sail as conditions warranted. My sailmaker explained all the reasons why that wouldn't work (the sail wasn't cut to be furled, made of lighter weight cloth and wouldn't be reliable in stronger winds, etc.) and I put the 100% jib on the furler. Except in very light winds (less than 8 knots), there is almost no difference in speed. The 23 and the 25 are both initially tender and once they heel past 15%, they won't speed up; there is just not enough keel underwater to translate the extra wind into forward speed. In short, I haven't flown the 150 for three years and I can honestly say there have only been one or two days where I wish I had it.
I have an Oday 23 and faced the same problem as you describe. The "problem" was solved for me when I installed roller furling. My intention was to have my 150 genny adapted for the furler, and I would just roll out as much sail as conditions warranted. My sailmaker explained all the reasons why that wouldn't work (the sail wasn't cut to be furled, made of lighter weight cloth and wouldn't be reliable in stronger winds, etc.) and I put the 100% jib on the furler. Except in very light winds (less than 8 knots), there is almost no difference in speed. The 23 and the 25 are both initially tender and once they heel past 15%, they won't speed up; there is just not enough keel underwater to translate the extra wind into forward speed. In short, I haven't flown the 150 for three years and I can honestly say there have only been one or two days where I wish I had it.
Symptoms of a blown sail........
You should not be overpowered in 12 kts. of wind. How old is the genoa?? If it is baggyand blown out, the draft of the sail is more towards the leech (instead of closer to the Luff) which will cause you to be overpowered. (lots of heel, leeway, slower speeds, loss of pointing) A new sail would be instant relief. Do you have a traveller?? Do you ease it to leeward in windy conditions?? Letting some of the air spill out. Just some thoughts Mike C. O'28 "Da Capo"
You should not be overpowered in 12 kts. of wind. How old is the genoa?? If it is baggyand blown out, the draft of the sail is more towards the leech (instead of closer to the Luff) which will cause you to be overpowered. (lots of heel, leeway, slower speeds, loss of pointing) A new sail would be instant relief. Do you have a traveller?? Do you ease it to leeward in windy conditions?? Letting some of the air spill out. Just some thoughts Mike C. O'28 "Da Capo"
Thanks
Thanks for all the comments. I am an experienced sailor and know how to keep the boat flat. The issue is not only heeling over but handling the sail. We want to race in our local beercan races. The 150 is a bear when it gets over ten for my inexpeienced family. I'm just trying to see how much speed I give away with the 110 vs ease of sailing and family peace of mind. I race Etchells every weekend so I get my fill there, this is more of a "keep the family happy and on the water" issue. Also the 28 has much more ballast than the 25, it really does get overpowered at 12 when you are close hauled
Thanks for all the comments. I am an experienced sailor and know how to keep the boat flat. The issue is not only heeling over but handling the sail. We want to race in our local beercan races. The 150 is a bear when it gets over ten for my inexpeienced family. I'm just trying to see how much speed I give away with the 110 vs ease of sailing and family peace of mind. I race Etchells every weekend so I get my fill there, this is more of a "keep the family happy and on the water" issue. Also the 28 has much more ballast than the 25, it really does get overpowered at 12 when you are close hauled
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