Gennaker operation question

[Syversens]

Hello all, I got some new parts from beneteau (which I highly recommend, their spinlock were half price what I found elsewhere) to control my gennaker. I will set up the tack line back to cockpit so I can control using the spinlock/winch but I also want to be able to douse the spinnaker from cockpit. has anyone rigged a ATN sock so the control lines (up and down) goes back to the cockpit ? I would like to keep the existing one and perhaps join it, if not what line did you use ? how many blocks at the bottom and so on.... thanksGaute

 

[Syversens]

Hello all, I got some new parts from beneteau (which I highly recommend, their spinlock were half price what I found elsewhere) to control my gennaker. I will set up the tack line back to cockpit so I can control using the spinlock/winch but I also want to be able to douse the spinnaker from cockpit. has anyone rigged a ATN sock so the control lines (up and down) goes back to the cockpit ? I would like to keep the existing one and perhaps join it, if not what line did you use ? how many blocks at the bottom and so on.... thanksGaute

 

[larry w]

Not sure that would work...

due to the control lines being a continuous loop, plus the fact that there would be considerable friction with lines all the way back to the cockpit. How would you blow the sail from the cockpit? I fly my gennaker with a snap shackle on the tack. Pull the pin and the sail just streams off to leeward.

 

[larry w]

Not sure that would work...

due to the control lines being a continuous loop, plus the fact that there would be considerable friction with lines all the way back to the cockpit. How would you blow the sail from the cockpit? I fly my gennaker with a snap shackle on the tack. Pull the pin and the sail just streams off to leeward.

 

[Syversens]

I have my doubts too

Larry, I think your right, even getting a larger loop will not make it easy to douse on both sides since it has to go outside the headstay.... I think the look will have to follow and therefore wrap around the stay making it hard to pull.I just got a new line for the tack and I'll be leading that from the ATN tacker back to cockpit, that way we can adjust how high it fly and let it all out by just opening the rope clutch I installed... we'll use the spinnaker winch if needed as well. I'm also planning on using the same line with the same block as downhaul for the spinnaker pole.if anyone has a clever way to operate the sock from the cockpit I'd sure like to know.thanksGaute

 

[Syversens]

I have my doubts too

Larry, I think your right, even getting a larger loop will not make it easy to douse on both sides since it has to go outside the headstay.... I think the look will have to follow and therefore wrap around the stay making it hard to pull.I just got a new line for the tack and I'll be leading that from the ATN tacker back to cockpit, that way we can adjust how high it fly and let it all out by just opening the rope clutch I installed... we'll use the spinnaker winch if needed as well. I'm also planning on using the same line with the same block as downhaul for the spinnaker pole.if anyone has a clever way to operate the sock from the cockpit I'd sure like to know.thanksGaute

 

[Doug_Meyer]

Too much line

I doubt that you could douse the Gennaker from the cockpit unless you were to come up with some ingenious block arrangement.I have an ATN sock on my gennaker on a B323. The halyard and the tack line are led back to the cockpit, but I still have to go forward to utilize the sock. It would be nice to figure out a way to accomplish this from the cockpit, but it would take significantly more line, and add potential for a tangle or two.

 

[Doug_Meyer]

Too much line

I doubt that you could douse the Gennaker from the cockpit unless you were to come up with some ingenious block arrangement.I have an ATN sock on my gennaker on a B323. The halyard and the tack line are led back to the cockpit, but I still have to go forward to utilize the sock. It would be nice to figure out a way to accomplish this from the cockpit, but it would take significantly more line, and add potential for a tangle or two.

 

[Cest La Vie]

Would create a spyder's nest on the foredeck

If you bring the tack line back to the cockpit, that adds one line across the foredeck, through line organizers, then to something like a spinlock rope clutch. If one added the loop line that controls the sock (which, btw, is one of the greatest inventions since sliced bread), you would have to have a double block at the base of the sail, with both sections of a longer loop line lead aft through two more line organizers, both feeding two more rope clutches at the cockpit. Assuming you already have a roller furling jib, that now means you have at least four lines leading from the bow across the foredeck. Also, three more lines on the coach roof. That is a lot of potential tangle points in the place you are trying to avoid in the first place. Not the place I would want to have to unsort a set of jammed lines. The halyard-definitely yes. The tack line-OK, but not required. The sock lines-a real pain in the backside.

 

[Cest La Vie]

Would create a spyder's nest on the foredeck

If you bring the tack line back to the cockpit, that adds one line across the foredeck, through line organizers, then to something like a spinlock rope clutch. If one added the loop line that controls the sock (which, btw, is one of the greatest inventions since sliced bread), you would have to have a double block at the base of the sail, with both sections of a longer loop line lead aft through two more line organizers, both feeding two more rope clutches at the cockpit. Assuming you already have a roller furling jib, that now means you have at least four lines leading from the bow across the foredeck. Also, three more lines on the coach roof. That is a lot of potential tangle points in the place you are trying to avoid in the first place. Not the place I would want to have to unsort a set of jammed lines. The halyard-definitely yes. The tack line-OK, but not required. The sock lines-a real pain in the backside.