geneoa for 22 oday 1975

[wrenchs wench]

i recieved a quote from national sails in florida for a new 150% geneoa at $400 plus 18 shipping. this seems like a great price!! my question is this has anyone dealt with this company and also do you think a 150% on an oday 22 is overkill or should i go with maybe 130% all remarks greatly appreciated

 

[mike c]

options

the 150% is it with hanks?? or furler?? I assume it's a rolly tasker sail?? correct?? These sails are made in Asia and shipped to National. Nothing wrong with that, and usually there is not a problem. The only problem I have ever had dealing with a foregn sail is that IF it doesn't fit right, then you have to ship it back to National, who then ships it to Tasker.....less time that you could be sailing. Again, this happens infrequently. As far as National is concerned, I have not heard a bad thing about them. My buddy with his 22 and now his 23 got his sails from National and is very pleased. When I had my 22, I compared prices with a few other lofts (including another tasker loft....the sailwarehouse in Cali.) and they beat the National price. You might also look at fxsails. They are based in S. Carolina, the sails are made there and they are GREAT sails for a GREAT price.(very comparable to National, but made in USA) I have personally dealt with them for a new suit of sails last year and they were awsome to work with. It just depends whether or not you want to have a relationship with your sailmaker. Best of luck.By the way, where is Sunset Bay NY???Mike C.O'28 "Da Capo"

 

[clay wright]

my beautiful 135

I have a 1976 Oday 22 that I singlehand exclusively. I have stuck with hank-on jibs because I have heard too much about performance loss (bad enough to begin with on a 22!) but also because I'm too cheap to buy a roller furler. Because I singlehand, I was concerned that a 150 would be too much to handle if the breeze came up rapidly (as it does around these parts) so I decided to buy a 135. After looking around a lot, I ordered the 135 and a main from Lee Sails. They were fabulous in the customer service department, substantially cheaper than other sources, gave me all the options I asked for, delivered at exactly the time promised, and the sails are beautifully built. The 135 is the perfect size for me. It tacks across easily without getting hung up in the shrouds, adds plenty of power for the typical breezes in my area, and is easier to see around than a big deck-sweeper would be. I had concerns about an off-site sailmaker that hadn't measured the boat. I was afraid the luff or foot would be too long/short, that the setback of the tack cringles would be off, the boom would sag, etc. etc. Lee sails nailed it. It was one of the most satisfying purchases I have ever made!

 

[wrenchs wench]

to mike

mike thanx for the info sunset bay is about 30 miles west of buffalo on lake erie

 

[wrenchs wench]

to clay

thanx the people on here are great now i can shop around a little

 

[mike c]

genny size

the percent (100% 110% 150% etc.etc.) is the size of the sail based on it's foretriangle The "J" dimension. A 100% headsail would be the "J" dimension (the distance from the headsail tack to the mast. A 150% headsail would be 1.5 times greater. As for jib,genny,jenny,genoa.....I was always under the impression that a headsail that was up to 100% was called a jib and anything larger a genoa.

 

[Chuck R]

Ok that is how I understood it also.

There has been so much improvements in sailing and sailboats in the last 50 years. I'm have fun discovering them.

 

[Joe11688]

Genny size

Hey Chuck! I know what size my Genny is. It's a 125%. Ya know how I know? It's says so on my sail bag! All kidding aside though. That 125% foresail is large enough for my 222. I can't even imagine having anything larger than that for this boat. It would be too overpowering for it. My Genny also has reefing points on it so that I can turn it into a Jib, which is a real hassle. It was probably OK for Lynne and Larry Pardey aboard the 24 foot cutter Seraffyn, but for me, I'd rather have a roller furler.

 

[feo]

150 v 130

I recently replaced my worn out 150 with a 130 and was much happier. I am of the opinion that the 150 is overkill. The 130 is easier to manage and keeps a much better shape when reefed on the roller furler.

 

[HukilauMike]

150 a bit much

Unless you sail in an area where the winds are routinely less than 10 knots, I think a 150 on that size boat is overkill. I just bought a new 135 for my Oday 23, and it is plenty big. The previous owner had a 165 made for the boat; I used it a grand total of two or three times. Its just too much sail for a masthead rig trailer sailer.

 

[mike C16582]

222 frac. rigged

Joe, your 222 is a fractional rigged sloop and should have a smaller headsail. It sails better that way. When I had my 22 I had two headsails. a 100% jib and 150% genny that I used only when I wanted to be the last boat in a race.....hee,hee,hee. A fair compromise is a 135% genoa which will deliver power in light air and still be manageable to tack shorthanded.

 

[Joe11688]

Re: Genny size

There you go! My sentiments exactly. Go with what works, and when it blows too hard, roll it up. Smooth sailing guys, and think spring!

 

[wrenchs wench]

dont i wish

wish i had a roller furler too cheap i guess

 

[Peter]

135 here

I also supplemented the sail inventory of my '75 22 with a 135. It is plenty of sail for the boat, and I am hard pressed to keep it up around 10 knots when I'm single-handing. It is a great sail--in light air it has become indispensible. However, I think any more cloth will overpower the boat too soon. Maybe if there were more lead further down it would be alright, but the shoal draft keel (which is relatively light, at that) just does not stand up to the wind pressure. In a good breeze, particularly puffs, the boat will heel over to the point that the weather helm can't be controlled fast enough and the boat rounds up. I have this problem with the 135 at the high end of its range. With the center of effort of the larger 150 further aft, the problem is exacerbated. My guess is 150-155% LP will be useful when you can lightly feel the breeze in your face, and more breeze is strenuous. But hey, with the right crew, I think I could handle the extra work at the helm and enjoy the excitement. You may find it worthwhile to reballast and turn this into a project...just ideas.