Gas storage

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Sep 12, 2005
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Macgregor 26D Marquette MI
I was wondering if any one knows if the lazzarette is an air tight chamber from the rest of the interior of a Macgregor 26D. The previous owner kept a 6 gallon fuel tank on the cockpit floor near the stern of the boat. I built a shelf in the lazzeritte to mount the tank. My concern now is an explosion due to setteling gas fumes in the bilge where I have (2) electric bilge pumps. Any suggestions on a good set up for my ngas supply for my 8 hp OB. Thanks, Stu
 
Jul 7, 2004
8,496
Hunter 30T Cheney, KS
No it's not

You will find out quickly when you leave the tank vent open. I think I read here once that someone foam insulated the inner and outer liner in the laz area to seal it off. I have the same problem with my new external tank Merc engine. I thought about extending the vent valve out of the laz somehow. Haven't done it yet.
 
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Mike Warren

Boat cover

Anyone know who makes a trailering/storage cover the 26M. I ordered one from THE SAIL WAREHOUSE that was made by THE TUMAC,S CORP. They were under the impression that the same cover for 26X fit the 26M. They do not. The reinforcements do not match the stantions and the stern closier dosent work around the mast support. I have photos if needed.
 
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John S

Gas Storsge

I just faced this same problem on my trip to Lake Powell. I stored a six gallon tank in my lazerette and one on the floor of the cockpit. I also hung two more gas tanks from the lifelines, a veritable bomb. Gasoline vapors are extremely hazardous, but manageable if you are very careful. The bilge pump motors do scare me but here is what I do: Select only gas storage devices (tanks, cans etc) that can be closed tightly. I mean caps and vents that can be positively closed. After filling, close the caps very tightly and clean off any residue, allow the sun to dry any loose fuel. Get sturdy plastic bags and wrap the tank you will put in the lazerette, and stow it so it cannot be moved around due to heeling or whatever. Only fill the tank to a point that leaves the fill mouth and vent well above the liquid line. Use your nose. Sniff the lazerette area before actuating any kind of flame or electrical device that may be a source of ignition. Immediately deal with any spills. I don't smoke cigarettes so my nose is very sensitive to smells like gasoline, I don't have an airtight seal between the lazerette and the cabin. If I experienced a liquid leak I would sense it immediately. Creating an airtight compartment with the possibility of a fuel spill in it will require a venting system and compliance with US Coast Guard Regs. As a child and a young man, I had a very cavalier attitude about gasoline. I even used to use it to wash grease off of my hands. One day, I saw a boat in Mission Bay, San Diego, that had blown up at the fuel dock due to ignition of vapors. I have been very careful about it ever since. John S Boise (who's afraid of hydrogen powered cars?)
 
Jul 7, 2004
8,496
Hunter 30T Cheney, KS
would this work?

The gas can cap is tight. The fuel line is tight. The big problem I see regarding fumes is the vent. Is it possible to slip some tubing over the open vent that exits from the laz so that in effect, the vent extends outside? It would need to seal tightly at the can. I'll have to try and fab such a setup.
 
Apr 9, 2006
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- - Crystal River Florida
Install a Couple of Exhaust Fans

It is possible to install two exhaust fans below the cockpit. I have done this on every boat that I have owned because I always carry too much gas. These fans when purchased from west marine or Boat US. come in non-spark models. These are the same fans required for inboard engines. I would also have them installed even if I only cooked below decks with small propane tanks. Having one on each side and exhausting either out the back, side, or top, would make it safer in a minute or less. Also, the newer tanks have better systems and do not exhaust as many fumes but any fumes, should be exhausted.
 
May 4, 2005
4,062
Macgregor 26d Ft Lauderdale, Fl
laz

The laz is open the interior on both sides at the top. the stern light wire runs on stb side. I used some 'great suff' after I taped it off on the interior side. has worked pretty well. I keep 2 -6 gal tanks in there. I added two passive vents. had I to do it over, I'd have gotten a larger built in tank, secured it and vented it, and built around it. I added some plywood to the upright laz wall so I could secure the 6 gal tanks. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y159/ftldiver/mac/6de06ea4.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y159/ftldiver/mac/1d280f61.jpg like you can see the tank... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y159/ftldiver/mac/7e5de501.jpg
 
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Kaizen

Tank Vent

I have a battery charger and a gas tank in the laz. That is a very bad combination. Although I have air vents and motor blower I still can't sleep nights. Last year I bought an automotive tire value and built it into the gas tank. I got a used tire inflator coupling, connect a small diameter rubber hose and ran it outside of the laz. When the tank is in the laz, the built in vent and cap are close tight. The vent with the hose provide ventilation over board and vacumm release when the motor is running. There is no fume in the laz. Why don't they build tanks with a vent like that? If I can find a picture I'll post it to this forum again.
 
Jul 7, 2004
8,496
Hunter 30T Cheney, KS
yes..do

I'd like to see your setup Kaizen. It sounds similar to what I was describing I was going to do. Or you could email pics to fca_jpf@prodigy.net Thanks!
 
Jul 7, 2004
8,496
Hunter 30T Cheney, KS
great idea

Kaizen. Thanks for the contribution. That simplifies what I was wanting to do. My tank doesn't have a thick mounting area like yours for the valve but I can fab something up.
 
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Stuart Casteel

Valve stem

What did you hook to the Automaotive tire valve to depress the valve or did you take the core out? Stu
 
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Kaizen

Valve stem

The screw on connector has a center piece that depresses the value stem down to open it. It works the same as a tire valve. Actually it is a tire stem. You can find the connector from a used can of tire inflation air sold at auto supply stores or Wal-Mart.
 
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Stuart Casteel

vented tank

After all this talk and nice visuals, I finally got the solution. I removed the screw in vent valve in the cap. Then I drilled it out to recieve a threaded hose barb for 5/16 hose and ran it to a 90 degree fitting that I placed thru the transom and connected it all togather. My tank is in the Laz on a shelf I built for it and secured it down. No more gas fumes and I can still have the 6 gallon tank I wanted rather dropping down to 3 gallon for the cock pit. Thanks every body, Stu
 
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