florida to bahamas january 2014

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Aug 1, 2013
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Oday 25 Panama City Fla
Howdy. My wife and I are sailing to bahamas on january 12 2014. Ive never been. I would love to talk with someone who has. I have oday 25 so I read about choosing a weather window. The more I read the more I learn. I just read where you have to fly a yellow flag when you come into bimini. Im learning so any help on bahamas trip will be very helpful. Also we are looking for another boat to go with us so here is the formal invite. Anyways. Thanks so much and I truly look forward to your comments. Anyone who wants to send their number so I can call would also be appreciated.
Ps. What is best marina to leave from and best customs to enter
 
Jan 1, 2006
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Slickcraft 26 Sailfish
I've never made that trip but I don't want this thread to die before anyone sees it. Hence the response. It's a bit troubling that you've picked a date since ocean passages and fixed schedules don't mix. There have been threads on this forum about this passage and I suggest you search for them and read them. Most of the issues center around the Gulf Stream crossing which can be problematic. There - I've kept the thread in play for those who exist on this forum who have made the trip, some many times.
 
Aug 1, 2013
22
Oday 25 Panama City Fla
Yes thanks. I have a week or so leeway. I was just telling my wife that if the weather is bad we would come home
 
Jan 22, 2008
1,483
Hunter 37 C sloop Punta Gorda FL
Yes thanks. I have a week or so leeway. I was just telling my wife that if the weather is bad we would come home
You need to understand that you need TWO weather windows, one going and one coming back. Early January is possibly the worst time to expect grace from the weather gods. Suggest you plan to explore Florida , maybe the keys. Or come back in April/May when others are going across.
 
Aug 1, 2013
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Oday 25 Panama City Fla
Is the weather worse in january? I had figured it was far from hurricane season. Lol. What is the best month? I was kinda hoping to miss the busy season but it just hit me that it might be busy for a reason ... skipping bad weather. haha. Any thoughts?
 
Jan 22, 2008
1,483
Hunter 37 C sloop Punta Gorda FL
Is the weather worse in january? I had figured it was far from hurricane season. Lol. What is the best month? I was kinda hoping to miss the busy season but it just hit me that it might be busy for a reason ... skipping bad weather. haha. Any thoughts?
In late December and January we get cold fronts weekly or better. This means a couple of days of strong north winds every 7 days or less. North winds whip the north flowing GulfStream into huge nasty waves.
 
May 8, 2011
189
ODay 25 Cambridge
In 2002-2003 and in 2005-2006 I took my Irwin 41 to the Bahamas from Maryland. The first trip was up/down the ICW and the 2nd trip was offshore. I too have an Oday 25 and I have equipped it for the Bahamas. If you would like to exchange information and ideas please send my a private message.
 

Pafb

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Oct 11, 2012
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Oday 28 Satellite beach
Absolutely agree with the above posters. In my opinion, January is probably the worst month to cross the Gulf Stream in a 25ft sailboat. As mentioned previously, howling winds from the north, associated with cold fronts, slam into the north flowing Gulf Stream creating huge confused seas. Are there windows of opportunities...of course, but you'd have to have multiple windows available to take advantage of calmer conditions. When you do find a favorable window I'd recommend your plotted course starts from southwest to northeast (meaning leave from West Palm or further south to take advantage of the north flowing Gulf Stream). Good luck and be safe.
 
Dec 19, 2006
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Hunter 36 Punta Gorda
JIM/Java

I am pretty sure Jim/Java has made the trip 2 times in maybe Nov. or Dec. and he has a Blog with a lot of info too.
Nick
 
Nov 6, 2009
353
Hunter 37 FL
Howdy. My wife and I are sailing to bahamas on january 12 2014. Ive never been. I would love to talk with someone who has. I have oday 25 so I read about choosing a weather window. The more I read the more I learn. I just read where you have to fly a yellow flag when you come into bimini. Im learning so any help on bahamas trip will be very helpful. Also we are looking for another boat to go with us so here is the formal invite. Anyways. Thanks so much and I truly look forward to your comments. Anyone who wants to send their number so I can call would also be appreciated.
Ps. What is best marina to leave from and best customs to enter
If you've never gone before, suggest going with others. At Marathon mooring field, there are people who announce their intent over the 9am cuisers net. There is usually a Bahamas bound group that get together at the tiki hut to discuss plans, waiting on weather window, etc.
 

Rick I

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Jan 6, 2007
414
CS36Merlin and Beneteau 393 - Toronto
In January there's usually quite a few boats waiting to cross. That's when you'll find a buddy boat. Just get on the vhf when you're at your departure port and you might be able to hook up with another boat. We usually cross from Miami. Don't know where you'll be, in the Keys or further north. Lots of boats cross from Miami. If you're taking the canal across you might start from Lake Worth, most go to Abaco from Lake Worth. It would help if we knew where you're crossing from.

We usually cross from Miami and clear in at Nassau. Don't know where you're going in the Bahamas (Bahamas covers a lot of territory). If crossing from Miami it's best not to stop in Bimini as the weather might go to the East and you'ff be stuck there for a while.

Normally when a front comes through the wind starts to clock. When it gets to a southern quadrant it's time to head out. The secret is to get at least to Nassau before the wind gets to East again.
 
Aug 1, 2013
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Oday 25 Panama City Fla
Great ideas. I really appreciate it. Can anyone name a good marina to leave from. Im open. This trip is unveiling itself
 

Rick I

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Jan 6, 2007
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CS36Merlin and Beneteau 393 - Toronto
Great ideas. I really appreciate it. Can anyone name a good marina to leave from. Im open. This trip is unveiling itself

Would be helpful if we knew where you're going to cross from. Lots of marinas on the east coast of FL but most of the cruisers anchor while waiting for weather.
 

RichH

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Feb 14, 2005
4,773
Tayana 37 cutter; I20/M20 SCOWS Worton Creek, MD
The Gulfstream 'offset' usually is current going north at about at least 2+ knots in the center axis of the stream, can be as much as 3-4 knots depending on the weather in the Yucatan Channel between Mexico and Cuba. For a boat that can continually maintain approx 6 knots forward that means during 'normal' flow in the stream and a 'good' weather window that you will typically have to head about 20 degrees more southerly to land at your desired port. With a small waterline length boat that can translate to a ~30 degree offset due to the current, and 1/2 the resultant speed to your desired port .... resulting in a passage TWICE as long as planned.
Also too the Northwest Channel between Grand Bahama and the Berry Islands/Andros will/can have a westward flowing current of 1-2 knots - directly on the nose when going easterly.

For a boat such as yours with an extremely short waterline length, Id suggest:
To Grand Bahama/Abacos - Leave from Ft. Lauderdale and head for West End, then sail the Little Bahama Banks eastwards to the Abacos .... etc.
To Nassau - Leave Miami and head for Bimini, the sail the Grand Bahama Banks towards Nassau, etc.

What you DONT want to do is attempt to sail a straight-line GPS waypoint course across the Gulfstream. Rather sail/motor an S-shaped course so that you are going SE right off the FL coast, ACROSS the Gulfstream at the point of its highest velocity and then more northerly closer to your destination - do most of your 'southing' early in the passage. In this way, if the Gulfstream flow rate is higher than normal which causes you to 'overshoot/miss' your destination .... you wont wind up in IRELAND.

My suggestion for your short waterline boat also includes to WAIT for a good weather window of SEVERAL DAYS of 'benign' winds and waves, as it sometimes take DAYS for the sometimes intense easterly swells to settle down during the Christmas Tradewind times .... then simply MOTOR ACROSS to either West End or Bimini.

Late December and January .... sometimes from mid-December all the way into mid-February is the time of the "CHRISTMAS TRADE WINDS" which are minimum 20-25++ NORTH-easterly winds, sometimes which blow 'constantly' for days or weeks at a time. In a small boat you DO NOT cross the GulfStream when the wind has ANY 'northerly component' as the seas can/will be 'tremendous to outright dangerous'. Even with good weather windows and predictions, when you leave your chosen inlet towards the Bahamas you keenly look at the far eastern horizon; and, if what you see along the eastern horizon looks like a 'parade of marching elephants on the horizon', immediately do a 180 and go back through the inlet and wait for better sea-state.

The Florida Straights can have LOTS of big ship traffic ... suggest an AIS receiver and a 'good' VHF radio to 'contact' these ships when necessary, as with a small boat with hindered speed capability you will/can be at a great disadvantage in 'getting out of their way' when they are at FULL speed; plus, many such crews do not speak 'english' and many times perhaps there is NO ONE on the bridge controlling the boat or they simply DO NOT answer.

For your weather window take NOAA forecasts 'with a grain of salt'. Instead 'listen in' to the professional weather routers on 4.045mHz (USB) SSB starting at 7:00 in the AM, starting DAYS before your anticipated departure. Plan to cross during a LONG (safer) benign weather window. Do NOT cross the Gulfstream at the WRONG weather time because 'you are on a schedule' ... as you can 'have your azz handed to you'.

Lastly, sailing across the Gulfstream in the Florida Straights is the same as 'deep open ocean' sailing and if youre not used to sailing the open ocean, I suggest you get some ample practice before making a crossing to the Bahamas. ;-)

;-)
 
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Jan 3, 2009
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Marine Trader 34 Where Ever I am
Just from the questions you post here and on other boards, I might suggest you get much more experience before you set off to the Bahamas. With a minimal boat and your lack of experience and knowledge, this might not be a good idea for a first long distance cruise. There are many venues in the U.S. that will provide you with the experience you need before venturing to the Bahamas. getting across is not the end of the cruise. Unless you plan to cross to Bimini or West End and then sit there until you come back, you will also need to get across one of the Bahamas Banks. This isn't a trip that should be taken lightly or on a short schedule. It may very well seem romantic and may very well turn out to be that way, if your lucky. But it can also turn out to be a disaster. No one is going to be sitting on your boat the morning you leave and tell you what may or may not happen as the day and cruise unfolds. That's knowledge only time and experience can provide. Leaving on a good days weather window can easily put you in a gale force situation withing a matter of hours if you don't know what to look for and how to read the weather 24, 48 and 72 hours out. I don't mean any disrespect, but it sure sounds like you may not be quite ready for this kind of trip just yet. There won't be any discussion board or even another person out there to help when the stuff hits the fan and your not prepared or experienced enough to handle it. Chuck
 
Jun 23, 2013
54
hunter 33.5 tampa
RichH above is right on the money. You will need a chart plotter unless you are very good, btw the heading from Ft.Lauderdale is 089-090 degrees approx. With a north wind at that time of the year and with a northerly flow of the Gulfstream expect big waves and a rough ride, I suggest you dont go alone.
Better you wait until June and go for the "Abaco race Week", a ton of boats go then.
The yellow flag is flown to show you have not cleared Customs, fly it before you clear in in the Bahamas and again when returning to the US.
Stay safe.............
 
Jun 23, 2013
54
hunter 33.5 tampa
Boknows, email me at "pnchacha5@gmail.com, I have made that trip multiple times from Ft.Lauderdale/Miami.............
 
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