Flaking The Main Solution

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Ducati

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Nov 19, 2008
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Boatless Boatless Annapolis
Our last boat had Dacron sails with a Dutchman system for the main and a roller furling headsail.

Our new boat is well equipped with hi-tech carbon race sails and I know that after a first few trips back to the dock my wife will really start to hate the process of flaking our racing sails. I was wondering if there is anything that we can do or buy make this process easier.

When we sail with "the guys" we have no issue however I know that if I don't resolve this process I see the purchase of some cheap delivery sails with lazy-jacks and a roller furling system.
 

RichH

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Feb 14, 2005
4,773
Tayana 37 cutter; I20/M20 SCOWS Worton Creek, MD
you want to ROLL sails made with carbon fiber and other 'hi-tech' fibers .... never 'flake' them. Flaking can cause a permanent crease which can readily destroy the strength of the fibers/films.
 
Jan 22, 2009
133
Hunter 31 '83_'87 Blue Water Marina
Rich,

could you please explain or describe Rolling the sail?

thanks
 
Sep 25, 2008
7,594
Alden 50 Sarasota, Florida
Flaking a fiber sail will crease it causing damage to an expensive sail. You really want to keep it for special occasions, racing, etc unless you want to remove and roll it every time you return to the dock. It should also have a cover designed to contain the roll to prevent damage from UV, abrasion, etc.

The headsail is less of a problem obviously but needs to be totally covered when not in use if you want to prolong it's lifetime.
 

PaulK

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Dec 1, 2009
1,446
Sabre 402 Southport, CT
Some people get a PVC pipe to wrap the sail around as it comes down. $8 at Home Depot. Your wife is not going to like this solution any better than flaking. Perhaps you need a new sail.
 
Dec 4, 2008
264
Other people's boats - Milford, CT
You should get some cruising sails. If you are racing for real, keep the carbon sails for those days, otherwise sell them. There is a pretty good fleet of 36.7's , you should be able to find a buyer.
 

Ducati

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Nov 19, 2008
380
Boatless Boatless Annapolis
you want to ROLL sails made with carbon fiber and other 'hi-tech' fibers .... never 'flake' them. Flaking can cause a permanent crease which can readily destroy the strength of the fibers/films.
You cannot roll them because the boom vang is in the way...unless I am missing something.


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Oct 22, 2008
3,502
- Telstar 28 Buzzards Bay
You roll the sail when it is taken off the boom....and store it in a long cylindrical bag.

You cannot roll them because the boom vang is in the way...unless I am missing something.


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RichH

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Feb 14, 2005
4,773
Tayana 37 cutter; I20/M20 SCOWS Worton Creek, MD
Rich,

could you please explain or describe Rolling the sail?

thanks
On my (scow) racing boat, I drop/remove the mainsail from the mast track and starting from the headboard (sail now disconnected from the mast but not the boom) roll the sail into a 'rolled package' of approximately 18" diameter - the 'rolled up sail' parallel to the boom. I then tie (w/ sail ties) the 'roll', hanging loose and slightly 'under' the boom. I then cover the boom and the 'roll' with a cover.
Actually on this particular boat, I dont use sail-slugs but only the boltrope in the mast track.

I do this with all my racing sails - laminate fabric as well as woven dacron. For jibs, etc. I remove from the boat, lay flat on a dock before rolling and then insert them into 'long tubular bags'. Even stiff woven dacron greatly benefits from rolling rather than 'flaking'. (I loft/make all my own sails.)

:)
 
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