Fishfinder deal

Jul 2, 2018
14
McGregor Venture of Newport 23 Tx gulf
Noticed a decent deal on a Fishfinder, I did a bunch of research on them lately(months)
Seems Garmin is about to get a class action lawsuit. And they are dumping this particular model cause of it. It seems to have caught them off gaurd with tons of inventory leading to lower prices
I'm talking about the Garmin echomap Chirp 94sv. Not the newer plus.
The plus adds touch screen, updatable with a cellular phone via WiFi, And a transducer with a down element more on that in a bit.

So for 579$ from various places you can get the echomap chirp 94sv. Basically at heart it's a very capable unit, nmea 2000(autopilot, engine, dsc, ais, wind, but doesn't do radar), nmea 0183, panotix sonar port, Bluechart g2 base map, transducer (cv-51).
So here's the problem Garmin violated a patent and the unit originally had the gt series transducer which had side scan elements and downscan elements
Garmin was sued so they quietly pulled the gt transducer from the boundle and replaced it with a CV series transducer. Which was exposed by Lowrance as only having side view elements.
Apparently the menu changed downvu, changed from down scan in a previous software update. It seems the CV units use both elements to get downscan using in software filtering. When was the last time a display demo fishfinder at a store was updated?
Likely we aren't missing any detail. On the chirp 94sv if we were I think a class action would be surfacing soon. Garmin's response was discontinuing the model with a large amount of units on hand.
If your not happy a new gt transducer is still available separately and in production. Or a panotix sonar add on can make it not even a issue or even get a separate dragonfly 4 for down view or something 579$ is cheap for a 9" networkable unit. For comparison the Simrad go5 xse is 569$ and it's a much smaller unit, with less and more
 
Jul 7, 2004
8,492
Hunter 30T Cheney, KS
Garmin probably won't support it don't you think? As in no updates? Will that be a problem?
 
Jul 2, 2018
14
McGregor Venture of Newport 23 Tx gulf
It's something to consider, at the moment you can still get it from a garmin authorized seller and has a 1 yr warranty from Garmin.
It has reached it's peak of development. As far as I'm aware but I don't work for Garmin so I couldn't be certain. But all in all it's a very good deal. Nmea 2000 likely won't see updates to the functionality it's compatible with so regardless it'll probably stay quite compatible for a while. I jumped on it.
As for maps I don't think you'll not have issues there. I'll also mention it can do coutour maps, and share them. Without needing to buy a special sd card like, i forget Lowrance or humminbird. Just a regular sd card works. You can choose to buy premium maps for auto routing port to port, but contour maps won't work on the same sd card
 
Jul 2, 2018
14
McGregor Venture of Newport 23 Tx gulf
What you might see first would be PC software HomePort might stop updating for newer os's. Homeport is used with several garmin devices including the echomap plus series. So it'll be years till that stops getting new pc/Mac software updates. As for added functionality probably maybe low
 
Aug 22, 2017
1,609
Hunter 26.5 West Palm Beach
There is another super cheap one out there right now, for less than $150 retail. A friend of mine just got one to put in the little whaler that gets used as a skiff/tender & occasionally sees a bit of fishing. The downside to this one is that there are no maps at all. You just get a yellow background for everything, land & water, the way that it is when it comes out of the box. It doesn't even have channel markers on it. The instructions say something about it learning contours as it moves around, so I will be interested to see what pops up on the screen after it gets used for a while. Still, even as it is, for $150 out the door, it's a GPS & a depthfinder with a 4" color screen. That's a whole lot better than nothing & it is probably enough to get the tender back to the mother ship in a dense fog. It does take manually waypoints, MOB, etc. There was some screen that had a notation about what kind of software it had in it, so it may be part of the lawsuit.
 
Jul 2, 2018
14
McGregor Venture of Newport 23 Tx gulf
I bet someone might be interested in that one if you know the make model.
The units now a days are way better than 20 years ago. Maybe in another 20 years it'll cook the fish for you before it reaches the surface.
 

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Feb 11, 2017
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Gulfstar 1979 Gulfstar 37 BELFAST
Seems Garmin is about to get a class action lawsuit.
Where did that come from? Garmin was in a battle with Navico 2-3 years ago, but that was all resolved. Is this another one?
Class action implies a group of individuals, not a company, it would really surprise me that a bunch of fishermen could get organized into a class to sue over a fishfinder? What kind of damages? Didn't catch anything?

When Garmin and Navico were going at it the issue was intellectual property, technology, and was settled. Well the laywers made money......Garmin and Navico are still both viable and I doubt either one felt like they won......
 
Jul 7, 2004
8,492
Hunter 30T Cheney, KS
I bet someone might be interested in that one if you know the make model.
The units now a days are way better than 20 years ago. Maybe in another 20 years it'll cook the fish for you before it reaches the surface.
That might drain your battery. :)
 
Jul 2, 2018
14
McGregor Venture of Newport 23 Tx gulf
A company makes a website to advertise there products
Clearly even today they are still misleading. People are reporting better down view preformance with gt transducers. I don't have exact specs but, alot of people paid full price for something they didn't get. Even the the early buyers with the gt transducers some were forced to replace gt for a CV under warranty coverage of a bad transducer. Just saying The right person comes along shortsells Garmin stock, and opens a class action lawsuit. They don't even need to win the lawsuit.

https://support.garmin.com/en-GB/?faq=0ZTCbWoHKl0xZjoBFNbfoA
 
Jul 2, 2018
14
McGregor Venture of Newport 23 Tx gulf
Where did that come from? Garmin was in a battle with Navico 2-3 years ago, but that was all resolved. Is this another one?
Class action implies a group of individuals, not a company, it would really surprise me that a bunch of fishermen could get organized into a class to sue over a fishfinder? What kind of damages? Didn't catch anything?

When Garmin and Navico were going at it the issue was intellectual property, technology, and was settled. Well the laywers made money......Garmin and Navico are still both viable and I doubt either one felt like they won......
Figured I'd also mention the 94sv is a ocean unit some super wealthy guy probably has one on a rib sitting on the deck of his mega yacht right now.

All that aside I didn't buy it for that
More or less giving some people a good reason not to buy a new model garmin of anything. Apparently they also made a 600$ watch where the altimeter goes extremely crazy. Seems Garmin is at the end of their rope if they keep this terrible customer service going.
 
Aug 22, 2017
1,609
Hunter 26.5 West Palm Beach
None of them really seem to have consistently good customer service. They all seem to be hit & miss, depending on what the problem is, who you happen to talk to that day & what parts they have in stock at the time. At least that's been my experience. I consider all that stuff to be disposable these days. I stock spares.
 
Jul 2, 2018
14
McGregor Venture of Newport 23 Tx gulf
Yeah I'm sure we can all agree to that
None of them really seem to have consistently good customer service. They all seem to be hit & miss, depending on what the problem is, who you happen to talk to that day & what parts they have in stock at the time. At least that's been my experience. I consider all that stuff to be disposable these days. I stock spares.