Enjoyed the first sail on our recently purchased Hunter 23 today...about 2 hours to rig, get off trailer,
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Cliff Ruckstuhl
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tony barnhill
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Ward Niffenegger
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I think what Cliff is trying to say is an h23 just won't normally go that fast. The h23 is a displacement boat (doesn't get up on plane like a speed boat does). They have a theoretical hull speed that takes massive power to exceed by much. According to the h23 specs on this boat (see specs on this website), the hull speed is 5.9 knots. I have had mine slightly over 7 knots for brief periods. 11 knots would not be very likely to achieve. Possible reasons for an 11 knot reading are: Your knot meter doesn't work correctly Your knot meter is set for kilometers or some other unit of measure You were in an INCREDIBLE current or some other conditions that gave you a false reading. If you have a handheld GPS, you can do a rough check that I find accurate as long as there is no current. Knot meters measure speed in comparison to the water under the boat. GPS measures speed made good. Any basic sailing or navigation book will explain this much better if you are interested. Another option would be.... Don't worry about it as long as you get from point 'A' to point 'B' Ward
I think what Cliff is trying to say is an h23 just won't normally go that fast. The h23 is a displacement boat (doesn't get up on plane like a speed boat does). They have a theoretical hull speed that takes massive power to exceed by much. According to the h23 specs on this boat (see specs on this website), the hull speed is 5.9 knots. I have had mine slightly over 7 knots for brief periods. 11 knots would not be very likely to achieve. Possible reasons for an 11 knot reading are: Your knot meter doesn't work correctly Your knot meter is set for kilometers or some other unit of measure You were in an INCREDIBLE current or some other conditions that gave you a false reading. If you have a handheld GPS, you can do a rough check that I find accurate as long as there is no current. Knot meters measure speed in comparison to the water under the boat. GPS measures speed made good. Any basic sailing or navigation book will explain this much better if you are interested. Another option would be.... Don't worry about it as long as you get from point 'A' to point 'B' Ward
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Greg
Guys...The 23's will plane
Takes a reach with the full 110 and 18kts or better wind. But they will do 11 kts or better. The 23 hull's flatter than a pancake from the keel back. Greg Ex H23'er
Takes a reach with the full 110 and 18kts or better wind. But they will do 11 kts or better. The 23 hull's flatter than a pancake from the keel back. Greg Ex H23'er
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Cliff Ruckstuhl
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Sorry guys but the 23 is not a planning hull design. Yes the stern is flat but where the planning starts to get the boat out out the water is the forward section of the hull shape and it is too round. I just sold my Tripp 26 which was a planning hull and it was real flat from the bow to the stern and there really was not much boat in the water. It was 26.8 feet long and weighed just a little more than the 23 and had more sail area than the Hunter 28.5 that I have now. I kept a main from the Tripp and need to have it made smaller to fit the 28.5. It really had more sail area than most 30 footers to 33 footers. So the 23 will surf down the front of a wave but it will not plane. The only answer is your knot meter is not set quite right. Sorry to burst your bubble. I had raced and sailed my 23 in allot of windy stuff and waves and we had her surfing down the front of waves in a burst of speed and she would hit 8 knots but only for a short time and I am not sure how much of that was just the water rushing by the inpeller. Cliff Ruckstuhl (Sail Trimmer and taction from the Hunter 23 National Champion Boat)
Sorry guys but the 23 is not a planning hull design. Yes the stern is flat but where the planning starts to get the boat out out the water is the forward section of the hull shape and it is too round. I just sold my Tripp 26 which was a planning hull and it was real flat from the bow to the stern and there really was not much boat in the water. It was 26.8 feet long and weighed just a little more than the 23 and had more sail area than the Hunter 28.5 that I have now. I kept a main from the Tripp and need to have it made smaller to fit the 28.5. It really had more sail area than most 30 footers to 33 footers. So the 23 will surf down the front of a wave but it will not plane. The only answer is your knot meter is not set quite right. Sorry to burst your bubble. I had raced and sailed my 23 in allot of windy stuff and waves and we had her surfing down the front of waves in a burst of speed and she would hit 8 knots but only for a short time and I am not sure how much of that was just the water rushing by the inpeller. Cliff Ruckstuhl (Sail Trimmer and taction from the Hunter 23 National Champion Boat)
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Kevin
All: Jeez, our first sail on our H23 and the GPS indicated 5.8 knots with jib and main---I thought we were really doing great! My 8.5 year daughter was stressed when she looked through the cabin window and saw water. (It's okay, she's a thrill junkie now and sleeps below if the speed is below 4 knots.) The hull speed for the H23 is 5.9 knots assuming the hull is a displacement design, which it is isn't. So called semi-displacement hulls will plane. The hull of the H23 is more powerboat than displacement. I have planed our wing keel boat under 50% power with a 9.9 hp long shaft at 6.5 knots GPS under bare poles. The boat had overtaken its bow wave and produced the classic powerboat twin wave wake so I knew the boat was definitely planing. We were headlong into a 20 knot breeze (which is why we were motoring) so I guess surface current at 2.0 knots for a boat speed relative to water of 8.5 knots. One curious powerboater drew up along sides after approach from astern and just shook his head---guess he wasn't used to seeing sailboats up on plane while running an outboard auxiliary. I wonder what it would take to get the boat hydroplaning on the winglets? ;-) Ten more hours of motor break-in and a new strenghten outboard motor bracket and we'll see what 100% throttle does!
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