EZ Loader trailer

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May 29, 2009
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Lancer 27ps Suisun City
Hello all,
I have a Lancer 27PS, not your usual trailer sailor. I bought an EZ loader trailer pretty reasonable but have no experience trailering. I thought talking to the experts might be a better way to fly. My boat has a fixed keel and a 4' 3" draft, weighs in excess of 5300lbs. I understand the theory of how to load/launch from this trailer, but it's not set up for my boat yet and I'm a little leery about dropping things. Any suggestions? advice?
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May 23, 2007
1,306
Catalina Capri 22 Albany, Oregon
Mine came set up so take this advice as you would anything you didn't pay for . . . 8^)

Seems like the best thing would be to use a sling or travel-lift to pull the boat, have them set it on the trailer and then adjust the pads before they pull off the slings. Keep in mind that the pads keep the boat from wobbling on the trailer and the vast majority of the weight should be on the keel.

I've no idea of what the "correct" way to do it is but I'll tell you how I'd at least figure out where the pads need to be if a sling isn't available. I'd take plumb bob and a tape measure. I'd measure the horizontal distance from the center of the trailer to the center of each stand. I'd use that distance to determine where it hits on the boat (this is where the plumb bob comes in - tape on the ground, move the plumb bob out until it's over the correct measurement). I'd measure the vertical distance from that spot to the bottom of the keel. That would give me a rough idea of what height the pad needs to be at with the boat on the trailer.

I did find a picture online that shows one of these boats on a steel support stand. Might be helpful to you for placement of your pads. http://www.yachtworld.com/core/list...2/Huntington/NY/United-States&boat_id=1025492

Fore/aft placement on the trailer is not something I'm prepared to comment on beyond saying you need to get the tongue weight right before you go bombing down the highway. Too much/too little weight can equal loss of control.

For my Catalina Capri 22 (4' keel) we launch/retrieve at the end of 30' of tow straps connected to a tow hook on the front of the truck. The trailer has dolly wheels at the front and a bridle that connects to the straps. Launching is fairly straight forward - run it down the ramp and it floats off . Retrieval requires a come-along to pull the boat all the way forward on the trailer (after it's out of the water) as the slope of the ramp leaves it about 4 inches too far back.

Hope this helps
 
Dec 23, 2008
771
Catalina 22 Central Penna.
Trailering Ideas

Everyone go out side, sit down at a distance from the side of your boat on the trailer and think of what you have seen at the marina and see if it applies to what you’re looking at now.

When you were at the marina, you mostly saw power boats being launched and retrieved. Think of what the hull of a powerboat looks like, a planing hull, the sides are straight, the stern is as wide as the mid section and the bottom is flat or has a deep V center with two flat bottoms leading up to the bow where it starts to curve forward. The guys back the trailer half way into the water and attach 10 to 15 feet of line to the boat and with the winch crank it onto the trailer. Think about the trailer, the bunks, if you do not remember that they were perfectly straight then do a internet search for power boat trailers and you will see.

Now what do you see, a displacement hull, much bigger in the middle with nice curved sides and bottom, all of the curves lead to the stern and the bow, the stern was not designed to sit deep in the water but actually out of the water, if you have a waterline stripe it will run in under the stern to it’s very bottom tip. Then there’s the keel, hanging down below all of these curved bottom lines. LOOK at the trailer bunks, curved to fit the shape of the hull.

Do you now think you can retrieve this boat on to that trailer like you’ve seen power boats being done at the marina.

NO! You can not! .. if you are, then you’re applying forces to the boat and trailer beyond their design. Bow eyes become loose on the boat and the mounting bracket of the trailer winch will bend into the up position and appear loose also. Adjusting sailboats on trailers out of the water by winching or sliding with the vehicle brakes is a NO, NO!

Sailboats are much heavier than power boats of equal length and if you’re water ballast then out of the water you’re much heavier.

Sailboats must be floated onto their trailers. You must place your trailer deep into the water so the front of the bunks are 2 to 4 inches below the surface of the water. If you can not achieve this then you need an extension on your trailer so you can!

Placing the front of the bunks under the water surface allows the boat to float up to about 1 to 2 feet from the bow chock.

As stated the winch is not for winching the boat out of the water onto the trailer and the tower is not for keeping the boat from sliding off the trailer as it is pulled down the highway. Your boats bottom is curved and the bunks are curved, your boat will not slide off, but bounce off, so running a strap around the boat and bunks will eliminate this,
So now the front tower with a bow chock becomes a stop for the exact placement of the boat on its trailer. Too far forward and the tongue weight affects the handling of the tow vehicle, too far backwards this affects the handling of the trailer, so the exact placement on the trailer every time is very critical, 1 to 2 inches difference can have problems towing.
After you FLOAT the boat onto the trailer bunks, think of this, your boat is perfectly level floating on the water, but your trailer is on an angled launch ramp, so they do not match up in the vertical dimension but when you pull the boat up to the front trailer stop, the tower and it’s chock, the boat and trailer is in the correct horizontal dimension, but still not in the vertical.
If you float the boat up to this front boat stop, the stern of the boat is floating above the rear of the trailer bunks so when you pull everything out of the water the back of boat moves down onto the rear of the bunks, the forward area resting on the front of the bunks will now act as a pivot throwing the bow up and away from the tower and thus unweighting the tongue and making the trailer unstable towing.

You submerge your trailer, you float your boat up to 1 to 2 feet from the front trailer stop.
Now what you want to do is lift the bow up out of the water thus sinking the stern, this is why the winch must be level or slightly higher than the final boat resting position. The front of your trailer bunks are submerged and wet so the hull will slide on them very easy and with a mooring line attached to the bow a person should be able to pull the boat forward another 6 inches thus lifting the boat bow a couple inches up as they slide on the front of the submerged bunks, now your boat is only 6 to 18 inches from its final resting place. The boat is no longer level, it is starting to match the angle of the trailer on the launch ramp! Attach the winch which is now in easy reach and finish pulling and lifting the bow of the boat up to the pre-determined limit.

As you crank the winch the bow will move forward as well as up, the stern will sink. What would be ideal is for the chock to be in a position above the bow eye so when the boat reaches its final position on the trailer the chock acts as a final stop guide as the bow eye touches the bottom of the chock. If someone is helping you “just crank until the boat eye touches the black rubber trailer stop”.

Your winch will only be lifting a couple hundred lbs.. not half the boat weight, and the boat will now match the angle of the trailer.

Note: I’ve attached a bow roller so I can pull and lift the bow of my Catalina 22 to within 6” of the bow chock thus only making a couple cranks on the winch. If you attempt to do this, place the roller 1/2 to 3/4 inches below the hull so the weight of the hull is not on this roller when towing, it will act as a presure point on the hull as the trailer flexes on rough highways. This roller will help with the lift because when standing in front of the winch you can only pull not lift, the roller will create less resistance than the hull sliding on the front of the bunks, the winch will then lift the hull up away from this roller at it’s final stopped resting position.
 
Dec 23, 2008
771
Catalina 22 Central Penna.
Trailer adjustments

Setting your trailer bunks or pads for height will be trial and error.

Check the tongue weight on your present setup. 10% of the weight of the boat, or about 500 lbs for your boat, on the trailer hitch. If it’s more, then you’ll have two ways to solve the problem, 1 move the trailer axles forward or, 2 move the boat backwards on the trailer.

The easiest is the axles, look at your trailer in the area where the axles are attached to the main sides of the trailer. The axle is attached to the bottom center of the spring, each end of the spring is attached to the trailer with one long bolt at each end. Now, the question is, are these long bolts through the spring attached directly to the main sides of the trailer or is there another member between them.

If the trailer was built for that boat and only that boat then the trailer was cheapen by attaching the axles permanently and it becomes very difficult to change it.

If the trailer was built for many models or sizes of boats then one trailer can be adjusted to fit all and one of the adjustments is the ability to move the axles forward or backwards to fit the centering weight of each boat. To do this the manufacture attaches the ends of the springs to a separate smaller frame and then this frame is attached to the mainframe. The fender will be attached to this separate frame so the fender aligns with the wheels when they move forward or backwards. This extra frame is attached to the mainframe with just a couple bolts that can be rebolted in another location or with U-bolts that allows this extra frame to slide on the mainframe.

If the axles are not adjustable then the boat will have to be moved on the bunks. After you launch the boat move the bow chock backwards by moving the stand or shimming the chock it’s self.

One inch can make a big difference.

Just make sure you do not go to far. Unweighting the tongue affects the stability of the boat and trailer going down the highway. If the boat and trailer sways just a little at any speed when going perfectly straight then you’ll need more tongue weight.
 

gnuman

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Sep 18, 2009
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Windward 24 Humboldt Bay
Adjusting Bunks for proper hull support

Watercolors... this is great info! Just one more question.
I understand adjusting the bunks for proper weight distribution on the trailer but how about the weight distribution between what the keel should support and the weight supported by the bunks? Does the keel take the majority of the weight and the bunks just provide lateral stability? I have a used trailer that needs to be adjusted and I want to make sure I'm doing it right... very hard to find any info on this subject and your knowledge is very much appreciated.
 
Dec 23, 2008
771
Catalina 22 Central Penna.
Trailer bunks adjustment

The keel is attached to the strongest part of the hull and the hull supports this heavy keel obviously, but it does this when every square inch of the bottom of the hull is supported by the water. Now placing the hull on bunks with less than 1/50 the support of the water what’s going to happen to the hull with all that extra weight hanging on the bottom and the extra weight you have placed inside.

Set the boat on the hull bunks so the keel is slightly higher than the keel bunk, say you can slide the side of a cereal box underneath.

Now shim the keel bunk up tight to the bottom of the keel.

You do not know if the hull is distorted or stressed in this position but, the keel will not add any additional. In this position the keel will not have a down pull or an up push effect on the hull when the trailer starts to bounce going down the highway. Make sure the boat is strapped to the trailer to eliminate any bounce between trailer and boat.

Stressed or distorted hull on the trailer will show up when you try to rig the forestay, “everything I try the forestay is too short”. The forestay should be loose when sailing in light wind conditions so, not being able to attach when rigging means you have a problem. If you encounter this every time you rig then try rigging with the boat in the water. I’ve seen this a couple times and it means you need additional support under the hull when on the trailer.
 
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