Trying to sell my boat, it's listed online as well as through a broker. I was contacted via email by a representative of a prospective buyer who was very interested in purchasing my boat, but needed to act with some urgency. After answering a few questions via email pertaining to the condition and history of the vessel the "buyer" agreed to my asking price. This is where it gets really fishy, he has a cahier's check made out for $10,000 more than my asking price because a previous sales agreement fell through, so will send me the check but will need a check sent back to him for the $10,000 difference. Furthermore, his "client" in in London on personal business and cannot draft a new check. And, the "broker" is under contract to purchase this "client" a boat before a pre-set date or they will need to pay a fine. So this "broker" will not share his phone number, will not call my broker, and insistently asks for my full name, address, and phone number (none of which I have/will provide). Just wondering if anyone else has had a similar scam tried on them? If interested, I will post all of his emails and his email address for the whole community to know who this jerk is.
Ever heard of this scam?
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This is THE OLDEST one
Software can create cashiers checks that look perfect. The cashiers check you'll get (I'm sure from some foreign bank) will bounce when you take it to the bank. They usually want you to send them a cashiers check back for the differnece, or wire it, or some other way so that you can't stop payment when their check bounces. Bet if you tell him you'll do it, but they have to wait for their check to clear before you'll send yours, they'll drop you like a hot potato, and you'll never hear anything more. And why would a reputable broker refuse to provide you his contact info? And if the broker wants to send you (or some other seller) the CC, it's obviously not made out to a payee yet. Why can't the "broker" cash it himself, and send you or your broker just your asking price, in funds you can verify?
Software can create cashiers checks that look perfect. The cashiers check you'll get (I'm sure from some foreign bank) will bounce when you take it to the bank. They usually want you to send them a cashiers check back for the differnece, or wire it, or some other way so that you can't stop payment when their check bounces. Bet if you tell him you'll do it, but they have to wait for their check to clear before you'll send yours, they'll drop you like a hot potato, and you'll never hear anything more. And why would a reputable broker refuse to provide you his contact info? And if the broker wants to send you (or some other seller) the CC, it's obviously not made out to a payee yet. Why can't the "broker" cash it himself, and send you or your broker just your asking price, in funds you can verify?
One of the most common scams, but not the oldest
They target sellers of expensive cars, boats, airplanes and any other high ticket items. Google "buying scams" to see how it works. It's not the oldest one, though...that would be the "Nigerian 4-1-9" scam, which has been around so long that they originally snail mailed letters to their potential victims. The most interesting thing about this one is that they're actually asking to you help 'em steal money...which means that anyone who falls for it has to have a good bit of larceny in their own hearts.
You can read all about it works here: http://www.quatloos.com/scams/nigerian.htm
They target sellers of expensive cars, boats, airplanes and any other high ticket items. Google "buying scams" to see how it works. It's not the oldest one, though...that would be the "Nigerian 4-1-9" scam, which has been around so long that they originally snail mailed letters to their potential victims. The most interesting thing about this one is that they're actually asking to you help 'em steal money...which means that anyone who falls for it has to have a good bit of larceny in their own hearts.
You can read all about it works here: http://www.quatloos.com/scams/nigerian.htm
Ignore it!!!!!
I experienced this one when I was selling a car. Ignore it. Don't even open the e-mail.
I experienced this one when I was selling a car. Ignore it. Don't even open the e-mail.
this scam has been around for quite a while!
boats, cars, anything of high value, its even been tried in real estate. when his cashiers check clears then you send the difference. they bank on the fact that your check is good and they have your money before its found out that theirs is a fraud and of course there nowhere to be found. Que Pasa?
boats, cars, anything of high value, its even been tried in real estate. when his cashiers check clears then you send the difference. they bank on the fact that your check is good and they have your money before its found out that theirs is a fraud and of course there nowhere to be found. Que Pasa?
Sucker born every minute...true 100 years ago,
true today. I use to wonder how my neighbor down the street could afford his 7-8 million dollar home. Well, he might be going to jail soon....he use to sell the same 500k lots to multiple buyers. Funny, thing he did this before and made lots of money...he got a warning from the court not to do it again. Well, he got greedy again...maybe the courts are less forgiving this time before he ruins other peoples lives. abe ber
true today. I use to wonder how my neighbor down the street could afford his 7-8 million dollar home. Well, he might be going to jail soon....he use to sell the same 500k lots to multiple buyers. Funny, thing he did this before and made lots of money...he got a warning from the court not to do it again. Well, he got greedy again...maybe the courts are less forgiving this time before he ruins other peoples lives. abe ber
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You want to here a good one.
It was a custom for developers here in the west coast of Florida that when they partitioned subdivision lots they did not include backyard ponds and lagoons and after the construction was done and homes sold these tracts were abandoned. This fellow here started picking up these tracts by purchasing tax certificates and then he would hold the sorounding neighbors up for ransom for them to purchase the properties from him or he would erect a fence and take their water view away. He would also put up some ugly fences with graffiti included. He also got a hold of the water rights holding some docks behind a condo and wanted to charge the residents to keep their boats there. People went up in arms and threatened to sue the counties. Luckily this person had some charges pending on unrelated business dealings and the story is that the District Attorney was able to influence him to relinquish these tracts back to the counties in exchange for some kind of olea bargain on the other cases. If you have a pond or a lake behind your home find out who owns and be concerned if its not you and the sorrounding neighbors.
It was a custom for developers here in the west coast of Florida that when they partitioned subdivision lots they did not include backyard ponds and lagoons and after the construction was done and homes sold these tracts were abandoned. This fellow here started picking up these tracts by purchasing tax certificates and then he would hold the sorounding neighbors up for ransom for them to purchase the properties from him or he would erect a fence and take their water view away. He would also put up some ugly fences with graffiti included. He also got a hold of the water rights holding some docks behind a condo and wanted to charge the residents to keep their boats there. People went up in arms and threatened to sue the counties. Luckily this person had some charges pending on unrelated business dealings and the story is that the District Attorney was able to influence him to relinquish these tracts back to the counties in exchange for some kind of olea bargain on the other cases. If you have a pond or a lake behind your home find out who owns and be concerned if its not you and the sorrounding neighbors.
selling scam
I recently had mine for sale and posted on a couple of sites. However, the same scam you experienced was a response to the ad I had in "Spin Sheet" out of Annapolis.
I recently had mine for sale and posted on a couple of sites. However, the same scam you experienced was a response to the ad I had in "Spin Sheet" out of Annapolis.
VERY COMMON ON OTHER FORUMS
check out www.craig'slist.com., it is a free buy and sell place. they have a warning about this scam. i broker large industrial equipment and this scam has been going around for some time. be smart and stay safe. max
check out www.craig'slist.com., it is a free buy and sell place. they have a warning about this scam. i broker large industrial equipment and this scam has been going around for some time. be smart and stay safe. max
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