thanks both ,yes indeed i sem to be out of luck with this model.And i ve found 2 so far ,prices £16000 19000 and they seem OK.I have a concern with size interior as the pilot house (wheel house ) has one saloon and there is another down ,plus a cabin forward .It seems from the pics that it might be a tight squise to live on such a boat ,and before i pay to go and see them i d like some more opinions on this.Best regardsGS,in UK RamsgatePS:Any people from Europe here?As i am looking to buy in the UK or Netherlands ,i d be interested in any contact relevant to sales and sailing boats in Holland.Bye,fair windsGS