looking at a catalina 22, took some pic's. does the keel look serviceable to you? how much do you think it'd cost to restore it? I don't have a lot of tools to unload/upload it, so most likely needs to be all done at a boat yard.
estimate to restore this keel
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The Stingy Sailor also has a detailed description of refinishing a swing keel on a Catalina 22.
https://stingysailor.com/2015/03/21/refinish-your-swing-keel-for-best-performance-part-1-removing-2/
What worries me is this keel appears to have more than just rust as it problems. Your second photo shows where the cable should attached to a fitting threaded into the keel. I don't see the cable or the fitting and the keel appears to be supported by a length of wire reinforced vinyl hose (like the hose connected to the cockpit drains). This is a critical fitting and would need to be repaired. If the bracket or the cable fail while the keel is raised the 600 pound cast iron keel would drop unsupported to stop when the head of the keel impacts the inside of the hull's keel trunk, possibly cracking the fiberglass.
Your third picture shows a metal plate bolted to the head of the keel (with one bolt missing). This is not part of the original keel. The first picture appears to show a makeshift hanger for the brass support rod that passes through a hole in the keel head. This rod is normally up inside the keel trunk supported supported by 2 plates that bolt into the hull. The second section of Stingy Sailor's article (cleaning) has pictures showing how these parts of the keel should look.
It appears to me that this keel has had major damage with makeshift repairs. I would pass this one by. At a minimum I'd want to have the keel removed for inspection as well as inspecting the hull's keel trunk.
The Catalina 22 is a fine boat.. I've enjoyed mine considerably. Good Luck.
Jack Woodside
https://stingysailor.com/2015/03/21/refinish-your-swing-keel-for-best-performance-part-1-removing-2/
What worries me is this keel appears to have more than just rust as it problems. Your second photo shows where the cable should attached to a fitting threaded into the keel. I don't see the cable or the fitting and the keel appears to be supported by a length of wire reinforced vinyl hose (like the hose connected to the cockpit drains). This is a critical fitting and would need to be repaired. If the bracket or the cable fail while the keel is raised the 600 pound cast iron keel would drop unsupported to stop when the head of the keel impacts the inside of the hull's keel trunk, possibly cracking the fiberglass.
Your third picture shows a metal plate bolted to the head of the keel (with one bolt missing). This is not part of the original keel. The first picture appears to show a makeshift hanger for the brass support rod that passes through a hole in the keel head. This rod is normally up inside the keel trunk supported supported by 2 plates that bolt into the hull. The second section of Stingy Sailor's article (cleaning) has pictures showing how these parts of the keel should look.
It appears to me that this keel has had major damage with makeshift repairs. I would pass this one by. At a minimum I'd want to have the keel removed for inspection as well as inspecting the hull's keel trunk.
The Catalina 22 is a fine boat.. I've enjoyed mine considerably. Good Luck.
Jack Woodside
You can do SOME keel work yourself, at some point we took our keel off and took it to a machine shop as the hole for the bolt had become egg shaped and needed to be filled in and machined. It also depends a lot on what the top side is/interior is and what they are asking. I had lots of resources to help get ours down and also had access to a boat hoist which made it infinitely easier. As jack said the 22 is a great boat but he has good points.
The keel pin hangers are upside down. I just finished drilling my keel pin hole out and putting the bushing in. More of a giant PITA than a technological challenge. That keel cable set up looks pretty sketchy to me. I'd walk away from that one.
thanks guys!
I kept playing what if's. If I fixed the keel (by someone or by myself), I'd have a nice boat, etc. Nah, probably wise to walk away this time.
I kept playing what if's. If I fixed the keel (by someone or by myself), I'd have a nice boat, etc. Nah, probably wise to walk away this time.
subtract 3500 from the boat price . plan to do a lot of work. (said by one who had similar issues with the swing keel cal 20 of my long ago youth...)
So I talked with owner again, he said he oversaw the installation of the keel and there was no space in the hull to insert the hangers, that's why they're below the hull bottom.
The boat is a 1975, is it possible that year or some years have that kind of design?
The boat is a 1975, is it possible that year or some years have that kind of design?
