Electro Scan System

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Oct 28, 2005
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Hunter 31 Portage De Sioux, MO
I am considering purchasing a new "Electro Scan" marine sanitation system. I am tired of rebuilding the Jabsco Macerator pump. Judging from what I read, the new ones are not very dependable either. They are not lasting long enough to justify the cost. So, my question here is: Has anyone installed this system on a Hunter 31 from the 80's? I think the 30' and 34' Hunter models are real similar to my layout, but not real sure. Where would you put it? It goes without saying as to which system you purchase should be for the area you sail in. Some of these factory produced boats just didn't have in mind any improvements, or how to you get there from here? Just testing the waters ladies and gents. Any information will be greatly appreciated. Fair winds to all. Thanks

Robert 47
 
Jan 22, 2008
1,667
Hunter 34 Alameda CA
Robert,

I put it in my H34 three years ago. The Electro Scan was put under the settee in the main cabin adjacent to the head. It completely replaced my holding tank. Now if I am not mistaken, the holding tank on the H31 is under the V-berth? Never the less, best upgrade ever. No smells (with the proper sanitation hose) and no trips to the pumpout station. Not having a holding tank means you can't go to "no discharge zones", but here in the SF Bay there aren't any where I go anyway.

Allan
 
Dec 2, 1997
8,959
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First, let's make sure you can use a treatment device

Treatment devices are legal on most navigable interstate waterways (rivers), but not on any "closed" intrastate lakes. (Macerator pumps aren't legal on either...so why have you even been using one???)

So we need to talk about where you sail and whether you can even use ANYTHING but a tank, before we get into how to install an Electro Scan....which, btw, isn't the right choice for you IMO. Check out the PuraSan, which is designed for use in fresh waters: Raritan Purasan
 
Oct 28, 2005
89
Hunter 31 Portage De Sioux, MO
Please excuse me, I referred to the wrong product it looks like. That is the Raritan product I was referring to instead of the Electro Scan. Thank you for correcting me and sending me the link.
 

lnikl

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Mar 1, 2011
88
Hunter 38 Port Moody, BC
I installed an ElectroScan on my 1983 H34. As with the other poster, I have it installed under the settee nearest the head. No smells, no floaties. In coastal waters where I sail (British Columbia), the ocean salinity will vary, especially if you sail into the Fraser River plume. I keep a small plastic container with some salt in it (the kind you buy at home depot for salting). If I am in a low salinity area (varies with seasonal river discharge) up a fjord, I throw a little bit of salt into the head and that, along with flushing and mixing in the unit does the trick. In other places, it isn't necessary. The electroscan will give you a readout in how many amps of current it is drawing. If you are at less than 14 amps, you should be adding some salt. Raritan has a salt feed system but they are crazy expensive (for what it is) and you have more vented loops to install. If you prefer, you could replace the salt solids with a brine solution.
While I was at it, I replaced ALL the hoses, got rid of the Y-valves that were there from a previous holding tank. In a H34, the install will have clean runs without places for accumulation in the hoses.
For the install, I flushed lots of water through the system first, then, in the old runs, I bought one of those cheap little drill mount pumps and used that to empty out the fluids in hoses etc. and then I tossed the pump ($10) and hoses it came with. I was replacing a very old electroscan with mechanical controller. Based on advice from here (thanks Peggy!), it was not worth fixing so I bought a new one.
I never have a full holding tank and in my cruising grounds that aren't really any no-discharge zones and here in Canada, no discharge just means no untreated sewage discharge (except in a few lakes).
I am happy with it. The only issue is that for non-sailing guests, the idea of a marine head seems enough of a mystery. Add in a button they have to push and it seems to take a few "tutorials".
 
Oct 28, 2005
89
Hunter 31 Portage De Sioux, MO
Thanks guys and ladies for the responses. I am trying to figure out the best way to go. I have already replaced all the hose and "Y" valves a few years ago. We found that fresh water in the head is better than river water. Some of that stuff smells worst than an untreated outhouse. And we don't let waste sit more than a few days in our heat we have here in Missouri. But I know I will have to replace the hose again, soon. I don't know when, but I think soon. Am considering solid PVC pipe or the whole new system mentioned already. Have the winter to think about it. Again thanks to all.
 

lnikl

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Mar 1, 2011
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Hunter 38 Port Moody, BC
I would suggest going with flexible hose that is rated for sewage so that it will resist odour permeation. Boats rattle, creak and groan and PVC is susceptible to cracking and spilling s**t everywhere. My previous boat had PVC piping on it and I found that the valves gradually deteriorated and were harder and harder to open/close. Proper sewage valves for marine system should do better.
If on freshwater, you will want the Purasan and not the Electroscan. You could always use river water to flush waste and then use fresh water as a "chaser" when your trip is done.
 
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