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Ken Shubert
Well, of course!
With a 23.5 you get the rail wet occasionally. Often intentially but sometimes by surprise. If the toe rail get wet it's not a problem but when the windows dive under...... UH OH! My friend with a 37 footer wants to sail on my 23.5 just for the reason that you can push it to thelimits, just for fun. My wife likes to bury the rail then quickly say "here you take the helm" Hmmmmm??? Ken S/V Wouff Hong
With a 23.5 you get the rail wet occasionally. Often intentially but sometimes by surprise. If the toe rail get wet it's not a problem but when the windows dive under...... UH OH! My friend with a 37 footer wants to sail on my 23.5 just for the reason that you can push it to thelimits, just for fun. My wife likes to bury the rail then quickly say "here you take the helm" Hmmmmm??? Ken S/V Wouff Hong
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Marc
No to TOE
We must have struck a nerve. Look at all the responses. With out rehashing in detail, I must agree with the majority here. I try not to dip the toe for the same reasons. 1. inefficient 2. greater freeboard 3. reduced control 4. First mate! (for most of us) 5. Lose items below But no one mentioned any thing about the increased stress on the sails and rigging. For those of us with older sails, ripping one of the panels out is just fuel for the wife to say "I told you so." I found out the hard way last November while rounding a point the winds picked up and I held my trim because it look fun. Brings back the days of my HobyCat 18'. Like I was flying a haul when heeling means speed. As the wind tried to spill out over the head of the sail, an old panel tore out and ended my fun along with ending my season with maintenance bill. The high angle also makes the time below feel like you just walked onto the old Batman TV series. Not to mention the problem using the head after your tea time.
We must have struck a nerve. Look at all the responses. With out rehashing in detail, I must agree with the majority here. I try not to dip the toe for the same reasons. 1. inefficient 2. greater freeboard 3. reduced control 4. First mate! (for most of us) 5. Lose items below But no one mentioned any thing about the increased stress on the sails and rigging. For those of us with older sails, ripping one of the panels out is just fuel for the wife to say "I told you so." I found out the hard way last November while rounding a point the winds picked up and I held my trim because it look fun. Brings back the days of my HobyCat 18'. Like I was flying a haul when heeling means speed. As the wind tried to spill out over the head of the sail, an old panel tore out and ended my fun along with ending my season with maintenance bill. The high angle also makes the time below feel like you just walked onto the old Batman TV series. Not to mention the problem using the head after your tea time.
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Rick Webb
Keeps rounding up
I took my 23.5 out today (it was in the 80s for all you folks up in yankeeland)and tried to get the rail in the water but it would round up before I could. I was able to get the window under water that impressed the non sailor we had with us. What are y'all doing to get the rail wet?
I took my 23.5 out today (it was in the 80s for all you folks up in yankeeland)and tried to get the rail in the water but it would round up before I could. I was able to get the window under water that impressed the non sailor we had with us. What are y'all doing to get the rail wet?
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Joe Aquilina
Other skipper did!
When I started out I went out for a few times with a Bulgarian skipper (Olympics man) who could put the toe rail under water in fast manoeuvres that used to scare the daylights out of any new sailor while going round a bouy. I have never managed to do it on my own because the boat broaches before the water gets anywhere near the toerail. Not that I want to either. I thought on a couple on occassions it would happen when I lost control in gusty conditions, but even then not.
When I started out I went out for a few times with a Bulgarian skipper (Olympics man) who could put the toe rail under water in fast manoeuvres that used to scare the daylights out of any new sailor while going round a bouy. I have never managed to do it on my own because the boat broaches before the water gets anywhere near the toerail. Not that I want to either. I thought on a couple on occassions it would happen when I lost control in gusty conditions, but even then not.
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Mike D
F-F-F-F-uuuunnnnnn ! ! !
I am not allowed to bury the rail. Every so often, however, this voice in my head says "Just a little". So after we plow along a little, I release the sheets. My wife makes me promise I'll never do it again and suggests the next time I'll be oredered to stand in the corner as a penalty! :-} Why can't we just be good.
I am not allowed to bury the rail. Every so often, however, this voice in my head says "Just a little". So after we plow along a little, I release the sheets. My wife makes me promise I'll never do it again and suggests the next time I'll be oredered to stand in the corner as a penalty! :-} Why can't we just be good.
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Jim Kolstoe
Wet rail - depends what you want to do
The truth is that dipping the rail slows us down, but its sometimes a lot of fun. Our children like to sit on the lee rail of our H23 and dangle their legs in the water. Sometimes, if we are not in a hurry, its fun to surprise them by heeling the boat so that the rail, and their bottoms, get a good dunking. Which causes them to beg for more! My wife also loves sailing on her ear.
The truth is that dipping the rail slows us down, but its sometimes a lot of fun. Our children like to sit on the lee rail of our H23 and dangle their legs in the water. Sometimes, if we are not in a hurry, its fun to surprise them by heeling the boat so that the rail, and their bottoms, get a good dunking. Which causes them to beg for more! My wife also loves sailing on her ear.
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Jerry Boone
Why Not
It may not be the best sail trim or the fastest. But the result is as good for the heart rate as a good aerobic work out. If all your stuff below is properly stowed is presents no problems.. but if you hear a lot of crashing and banging below and you take a look and see considerable aftermath.... maybe you should consider a power boat. I like to put he rail in the water on the 42 and look below through the lower ports underwater.
It may not be the best sail trim or the fastest. But the result is as good for the heart rate as a good aerobic work out. If all your stuff below is properly stowed is presents no problems.. but if you hear a lot of crashing and banging below and you take a look and see considerable aftermath.... maybe you should consider a power boat. I like to put he rail in the water on the 42 and look below through the lower ports underwater.
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