Disappointing Survey

Feb 6, 2011
253
The marine survey for V265 Vinfalle is not good. I uploaded the
survey document in rich text format to the files section. Based on
the survey, I'm not sure what to do next. The decks are
completely saturated with moisture. The surveyor commented that he
has never seen a foam-cored Vega deck so wet before. The entire top
skin would have to be cut and removed, so that the foam can dry out.
Then the deck skin would have to be replaced. The aft half of the
keel is bulging from moisture. The laminates have lost all
strength. The recommended repair is to grind all the gelcoat and
most of the fiberglass laminates from this area and re-laminate with
new glass.

However, the worst repair, is the one that almost kept me from buying
the boat. My first response to seeing the boat and the mud-cracked
gelcoat was, "No way am I going to grind all that gelcoat off and
refinish this boat". However, all the books and web sites I
looked at, kept saying that all you needed to do was cover the
cracked gelcoat with a high build epoxy primer. So I convinced my
self to take a chance on it. However, the surveyor said the high
build epoxy primer does not work as well as the manufacturer's
claim. He said in my case, with the severity of the cracking, that
the primer/paint would just crack back open again. The other reason
for removing the entire gelcoat, is that the moisture levels are high
in the entire bottom and about 12 inches (30 cm) of the freeboard.
The gelcoat needs to come off to allow the laminates to dry. Then
I'm
looking at a full boat fairing and finishing job.

So in summary, I'm almost building a new boat, from the remains
of the old boat. The boat needs about US$5000 in materials, not
including engine/boom/sails/safety equipment, just to look like a
boat again. As I see it my options are;
1) Don't get any deeper in the hole with this boat. Sell it,
donate it, or scrap it for parts. Look around for a better
condition Vega.
2) Just do the keel repair, get a boom, some sails, and put some
miles on it. So what if it's the ugliest boat in the harbor, at
least you'll get some fiberglass repair experience.
3) Just do it! Completely rebuild the boat, despite the time, money,
and labor involved.

My common sense is telling me to do #1. However, I keep trying to
convince myself that getting something out of the boat, like #2,
would be good. There is only a very tiny inner voice that says do #3.

Chris
V265 Vinfalle
 
Aug 9, 2000
55
Chris...

Let the boat dry a year on land under a cover.... epox. the decks... a days
work and prob. $50.00... have the bottom pealed and epox. paint it... spend
$300. have something that is seaworthy.. maybe not beautiful, but it won't
fall apart and then go sailing... the rest of the equipment you should be
able to scrounge at bacons or go to other used vendors and just go cheap....
how much will land storage cost you at the marina? good luck

dan
 
Jan 28, 2001
694
Chris, Sorry to hear about the boat. I don't know what to say. You could
dump thousands into it but you would spend a lot of time that you could use
to sail on something in better condition. You also would not get your money
back when it came time to sell. I decided 10 or so years ago to replace the
rather short stancions that came with the boat. When I looked at the price
for new ones I figured I could make them cheaper myself. Result was cheaper
stancions that worked well but didn't look as nice. Reality was had I just
put in some extra hours at work I could have had better looking ones. When I
looked at the cost I didn't figure in the value of my time. It was a bad
choice. A few years ago I bought a wrecked Vega named Sonia. I wanted the
Volvo diesel to replace the Albin gas engine. Sonia had been run over by a
sportfisherman. She didn't sink but she was totaled. I only paid a few
hundred dollars for her. I made a couple of thousand parting her out. Good
luck with whatever you decide. Walt, S/V Lyric #120