differences between oday 19 mariner and 192

[Roger (Ninette Manitoba)]

What are the significant differences between the above boats. I am contemplating the move up from a Daysailer II mostly to gain some interior room. I still mostly intend to daysail, but it would be nice to be able to hide out a rain storm in some comfort,and have the ability to sleep overnight occasionally. I do like the cockpit size, trailerability, sailability and stability of the DS II, and definately would want to stay with a centreboard model due to the shallow ramps on the lakes around here. I have looked at the model difference on this site, and can only discern that some early models slept only 2, then later the mariner was designated as a 2+2 with, I am assuming quarterberths. Can you good people discern further differences and quide me to my next boat.

 

[JOHN]

MARINER 2 2

ROGER: We have a Mariner 2+2 and the person nexed to us at our dryslip has a Daysailor II. The two boat are alot alike in some respects. The mariner is just bigger all over. IE: More free board, cockpit is about the same length but a bit wider. most of the room is in the cabin and yes the 2+2 is the additon of the two quarter berths. which with where the porta potti is located is really the only good places to sit or sleep. I can tell you the the mariner wil take some pretty big "seas" We sail on Lkae michigan and have been caught in some pretty nasty storms and i never worried about the boat. I can really not say anything bad about the mariner and i think it will sail quite a bit like your Daysailor. Good luck with your decision. On another note the mariner is still in production , that should say something about the design.

 

[ed21]

Different bpats

The Mariner & the 192 are completely different designs. A search on the O'Day Owners site should find some pictures & specs.The Mariner was designed back in the 50's or 60's by Phillip Rhodes. A variation is the Rhodes 19. It has lower/ smaller cabin.The 192 is a more "modern" looking design that I have no experience with.Both have centerboards although Mariners were available w/ keels early on(60's).The old style Mariners were not self bailing & "slept" 2 in cabin. The cabin is realy best suited to storing stuff. I never tried to sleep in mine, but I suppose you could. The cockpit is nice & long.The Mariner 2+2 is still being made by Stuart Marine.

 

[Cool Breeze]

Mariner Versus 192

I have not sailed a 192 but I own an orignal style (1966 Model) Mariner. As my my son and I are short, the cabin is OK to sleep in now that we upgraded to 4" closed celluar foam. Only one person can be moving in and out at a time and you do have to be on you knees to be inside. What we love about the original design is the cockpit room and the secure feeling of sitting more into the cockpit on this design. There is no doubt that the 2+2 would provide more interior space but you do lose some access to two cargo storage boxes built into the front of the cockpit seats. I may be wrong but I think any of the Mariners would sail more like the daysailer than the 192. Good Boat Hunting!

 

[Roger (Ninette Manitoba)]

question to cool breeze

Thank you for your reply. I am starting to get a sense of the difference between the two boats. You said of your older Mariner that..."Only one person can be moving in and out at a time and you do have to be on you knees to be inside."My question relates to headroom. Do you not have sitting headroom inside the old style Mariner, and if not, do you know if the new style Mariner has sitting headroom?Also please comment on the locations and size of stowage lockers on deck, in the cockpit, and in the cabin.One of my reasons for wanting to move up from a daysailer is to remove the clutter from inside the cabin and gain a place to sit during a rainstorm.

 

[Cool Breeze]

Response to Roger

I'll respond now to keep this current but I do have a picture that I can post later if you needed. I don't have it with this computer. Yes there is sitting room, in the back half (wider) part of the cabin. That equates to about a third of the v-bunk. Aft of the V-bunk,yet still under the cabin roof, are three storage compartments, from port to startboard looking forward: one to port, walkway, then two to starboard. The first to starboard was orginally the compartment for a flush through head. The smaller compartment outboard to starboard is where our deep cycle battery is kept. It's weight is offset to the port by the outboard motor (inhull mount on the old boats).The compartments in the cockpit seat are in the forward portion, one per side. The starboard one is lined and has a plug to be used as a cooler but is not well insulated, the port is just open to the hull. They are about (estimated by memory) 20" long by 12" wide and about a foot deep inboard down to about 8" outboard. The combined inside and outside storage would likely not meet the 2+2 quarter berths but all of these locations can be accessed without moving other things. You do lose a security of a lockable hatch as the aft full aft wall of the cabin is canvas (sunbrella for us) but also nicely covered up with screening for great ventilation in hot sleeping weather. However you do gain a forward hatch that can also be screened and is nice to have if you need to poke through to the fore deck in bad weather. Finally, I'm not sure but I think you sit a little deeper in our cockpit since the seats didn't need to be high enough to have legs stretched out underneath but I can't be sure but I know it feels like more between you na the water. By the way, check out usmariner.org