Deploying genekker

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May 20, 2011
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Beneteau Clipper 323 St Peter Port
Have a 323, a bit tender it has to be stated. Upon trying to carefully deploy our genekker (asymmetric) we've had huge problems even in light wind of immediately becoming overpowered. Latest thought is to try using a parrell bead strop round the furled genoa to try to stop the genekker swinging to windward even on a short tack line and keep it more down the centre line, any thoughts that might help us?
 
Jun 4, 2004
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Sail deep and hoist. Tack should be about 18-24 inches above the bow (about the top of the pulpit). Don't over sheet or trim, and let it float out in front of the boat (you actually want the leading edge to float to windward of the forestay). If the leading edge is curling from time to time, you are properly trimmed. The biggest problem people have is trying to trim it like a jib and make it look like a jib.

When it's time to douse, sail deep and let it collapse behind the mainsail. Open the hatch, gather the foot, release the sheet and tack, and stuff it down while someone eases the halyard down. When it is time to re-hoist, simply reverse the process.

No need for beads. Learn to trim it.
 
Oct 6, 2010
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Beneteau Oceanus 321 Carters Pt.
Take a look at this North Sails video,I found it very helpfulttp://www.na.northsails.com/SAILS/DownwindSails/GennakerHandlingVideo/tabid/25806/Default.aspx
 
Jun 7, 2007
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Hunter 320 Williamsburg
Once you figure it out...

...Try deploying a bowsprit to keep the spinnaker ahead of the main. Email me at bodonovan8@gmail.com for pix and direx that include quasi-permanent set-up of the spin lines and tack line for easier execution.
 
Jun 25, 2012
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hunter 356 Kemah,the Republic of Texas
DJBrookster said:
Have a 323, a bit tender it has to be stated. Upon trying to carefully deploy our genekker (asymmetric) we've had huge problems even in light wind of immediately becoming overpowered. Latest thought is to try using a parrell bead strop round the furled genoa to try to stop the genekker swinging to windward even on a short tack line and keep it more down the centre line, any thoughts that might help us?
LET THE MAINSAIL OUT !!! Most cruisers with no racing or proper sail trim experience...Their biggest mistake is that they always over tighten the main even when they are not trying to fly a chute!
 

RichH

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Feb 14, 2005
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Tayana 37 cutter; I20/M20 SCOWS Worton Creek, MD
Have a 323, ........ any thoughts that might help us?
A possibility is that you take too long to raise your Asymm, ... you possibly go 'bareheaded' (no jib) for too long and the boat simply slows down significantly. Any boat that is virtually stopped during a sail 'change' will usually heel over excessively when 'restarting' with the newly raised sail ... until back to speed.
If this is indeed the case, suggest that you rig all the asym lines, etc. before furling/dowsing the jib .... then douse and IMMEDIATELY raise or un-sock the aysm - for only a small loss in boat speed.
If this 'helps', then consider to proceed to the next (possible) step of simultaneously dousing/furling the jib and raising/un-socking the asym. (as fast as possible - see note) ... and with the tack-line TAUGHT, then adjust the sheet, and then allow the tack to be raised to it proper position - luff curling at about mid luff. If you raise with a slack tackline the sail will set 'powered-up'; with tack line taught, the sail will be somewhat depowered.
An asymmetrical that is unstable ('billowing' around) during the raising is an invitation to a 'spinnaker wrap' around the forestay. The 'faster' you get the sail up, trimmed and drawing properly ... the less likelihood of a 'wrap.

Note - to do this you should have a mast crane - an extension arm at the top of the mast which holds the head of the spinnaker out and well away from any furler top swivel .... a rotating swivel/foil can easily 'eat' the head of a spinnaker, thus jamming the furler and sometimes a semi-permanent jam-up. A mast crane helps to prevent this wrapping the spinnaker in the top swivel or furler foil.

A correctly trimmed and properly set tack line will allow the luff to definitely 'move' towards windward. As another poster correctly stated many try to wrongly sail an asymm exactly like a jib ... a well trimmed and tackline adjusted asym will have it luff 'reaching' into the windward side of the boat. How much? .... until the luff just begins to 'curl' and the sail remain 'stable'.
 
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