I hope to buy a Sandpiper565. The daggerboard raising and lowering system is unusual and I have not seen any comments on it during my web searches. Is the system easy to use and free of problems?
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I think your boat was originally built in To and was designed by Maurice Edel.Try edel565 and you might find more info. When the original builder went belly up the moulds ended up with a guy named stanley hatch in Virginia Ont. One of the three sizes was boat of the year in the early 80's
Problems?
The keel is raised and lowered by a naval bronze screw. about 85 turns with a handle. I use a drill adaptor to do the job.I never heard about problems with the system.It seems to be very reliable. See the manual included with this post.
The keel is raised and lowered by a naval bronze screw. about 85 turns with a handle. I use a drill adaptor to do the job.I never heard about problems with the system.It seems to be very reliable. See the manual included with this post.
Tu es le bienvenu!
You are welcome! I hope you find the Piper of your dreams. These pretty little boats really have a big boat feel and they are very safe. Good luck!
You are welcome! I hope you find the Piper of your dreams. These pretty little boats really have a big boat feel and they are very safe. Good luck!
Rex!
My previous post was intended for Scot (my mistake if I read too fast sometimes!) But you are welcome too Rex! ;-)
My previous post was intended for Scot (my mistake if I read too fast sometimes!) But you are welcome too Rex! ;-)
There is occasional maintenance required
Scot, the Sandpiper's retractable keel mechanism is quite robust. As Michel mentioned, the keel is lowered and raised by a bronze jack screw. The keel weighs 300#'s, and is lead incased in fibreglass. It is sometimes necessary to lubricate the jack screw. If you find the crank hard to turn, it's time to clean and lubricate. This is accomplished by supporting the keel from under the boat. From inside the boat, remove the keel trunk covering and drill out the rivets that hold the jack screw aluminum retaining plate. At this point, turning the screw will result in the screw turning out of the keel, and into the cabin, where it can be cleaned and lubricated. There is a small bearing under the turning nuts, at the retaining plate. This bearing can usually be cleaned, and returned to service. If it happens to be rusty, replace it. CL Sailboats in Fort Erie ON, has replacement parts available. Once the screw has been lubricated, reverse the disassembly procedure, and your keel screw will operate effortlessly, for many more years. This is NOT an annual maintenance job. FWIW, I used anti sieze compound on my keel screw. Others have used a waterproof grease. Apart from that occasinal maintenance, there's nothing else to do, but sail
. Good luck with you purchase Scot. If you have any other questions don't be afraid to ask! Rex, there is no connection between Edel, and CL Sailboats(the Sandpiper manufacturer) that I'm aware of, other than being competitors. My Sandpiper was built by Waterhouse and May, C&L Sailboats, in Pickering. The Sandpiper is of British design. Rex do you have a boat in both Toronto and Annapolis?? Eric
Scot, the Sandpiper's retractable keel mechanism is quite robust. As Michel mentioned, the keel is lowered and raised by a bronze jack screw. The keel weighs 300#'s, and is lead incased in fibreglass. It is sometimes necessary to lubricate the jack screw. If you find the crank hard to turn, it's time to clean and lubricate. This is accomplished by supporting the keel from under the boat. From inside the boat, remove the keel trunk covering and drill out the rivets that hold the jack screw aluminum retaining plate. At this point, turning the screw will result in the screw turning out of the keel, and into the cabin, where it can be cleaned and lubricated. There is a small bearing under the turning nuts, at the retaining plate. This bearing can usually be cleaned, and returned to service. If it happens to be rusty, replace it. CL Sailboats in Fort Erie ON, has replacement parts available. Once the screw has been lubricated, reverse the disassembly procedure, and your keel screw will operate effortlessly, for many more years. This is NOT an annual maintenance job. FWIW, I used anti sieze compound on my keel screw. Others have used a waterproof grease. Apart from that occasinal maintenance, there's nothing else to do, but sail
. Good luck with you purchase Scot. If you have any other questions don't be afraid to ask! Rex, there is no connection between Edel, and CL Sailboats(the Sandpiper manufacturer) that I'm aware of, other than being competitors. My Sandpiper was built by Waterhouse and May, C&L Sailboats, in Pickering. The Sandpiper is of British design. Rex do you have a boat in both Toronto and Annapolis?? EricMany thanks to Rex, Michel and Eric for your replies and helpful information. I am reassured that maintenance is straightforward and readily accomplished. I intend to keep my boat afloat throughout the year. I would do the daggerboard maintenance when lifted out for periodic inspections. Scot
other boats using keel system
Take a look at the British built 'Sailfish 18'. This sailboat is very similar to our Sandpiper 565.
Take a look at the British built 'Sailfish 18'. This sailboat is very similar to our Sandpiper 565.
Sailfish
I wonder if the Sailfish is not our Piper's ancestor?...The Sandpiper was built on license,I believe. Apart from the cabin layout,They really look like the same boat.
I wonder if the Sailfish is not our Piper's ancestor?...The Sandpiper was built on license,I believe. Apart from the cabin layout,They really look like the same boat.
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