Crossing Lake Michigan East to West

xavpil

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Sep 6, 2022
376
Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 419 Milwaukee
Hey friends.
I am about to finish my trip from the Bahamas to Milwaukee.
Last challenge, is crossing the lake, solo. (40’ SO Jeanneau)
I will do a long day rather than overnight.

If you are familiar with Lake Michigan, what are your recommendations?
I was told, “cross anytime weather permit, don’t wait”.
To avoid wind against wave, what are the conditions I am looking for?
After strong winds, am I supposed to wait for a day or 2 for the waters to calm, like in the Gulf Stream?

Thx!
 

duck21

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Jul 17, 2020
182
Hunter 376 0 Washburn, WI on Lake Superior
To confirm, are you entering Lake Michigan via the Mackinac straights, final destination of Milwaukee?

I typically sail in Superior, but in 2021 my family and I made our way up the East shore of Lake Michigan while transporting our boat from St. Joseph back up to our home waters in the Apostle Islands (Lake Superior). We experienced a wide variety of weather along the way.

Before starting any leg I'd check the Open Waters forecast:


I like to play it safe, so if thunderstorms are predicted, even if it's a small chance in the afternoon, I wouldn't put myself out there.

Waves can build and die all in the same day. On our trip our Charlevoix to Mackinac leg started with dead calm waters (and fog), seas built a North wind of 20-30kts with waves 2-4 feet by the Grays Reef Light, then back to glass smooth water by the time we crossed under the bridge.

Mackinac bridge to Milwaukee is 200 miles if you did it in one shot. I'd do the following:

Mackinac to Manistique
Manistique to Washington Island
Washington Island to Algoma
Algoma to Manitowoc
Manitowoc to Milwaukee

You could leap frog one or two stops if you chose longer days.

The upside to "crossing" the lake up north will be that the longer lake length allows for a little better wave spacing if a South wind. if a West wind (which is also common) there are enough inlets to not get to as significant of wave height.

Then, with mostly west winds, you will in essence follow the lee shore for the rest of your trip.

Doug
 

xavpil

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Sep 6, 2022
376
Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 419 Milwaukee
To confirm, are you entering Lake Michigan via the Mackinac straights, final destination of Milwaukee?
Yes coming from Lake Huron Via Mackinac’s.
Thank you for sharing the info.

I have no knowledge whatsoever of either coast of the lake. Looking at Google Earth, the northern west coast seems wilder with less options to stop in case of emergency for a solo sailor than the East?
Do you know?
 

duck21

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Jul 17, 2020
182
Hunter 376 0 Washburn, WI on Lake Superior
You are correct that by population there may be fewer people over all. However, (please feel free to disagree with me -- opinions are based on my comfort levels and a single-time-experience)

I think your biggest risks are unpredicted thunderstorms, which can pop up quickly. They blow over quickly as well, but can be pretty violent in the moment. By following the north west route you'll be closer to shore and, should something come up on radar, may be able to get in close to land and put down an anchor (or, at a minimum, use the shore to keep out of the larger swells).

If you do go with the Eastern side there is something else to note: you will not be able to hug the shore as you make your way south from Mackinac to Charelvoix. There is a large shoal from the Wilderness State Park area to about 5 miles off shore. Assuming that you are trying to be as efficient as possible your route will most likely look something like this:

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You could tuck into Little Traverse Bay, but at the end of the day I think it's about the same mileage). I think you'll be just as limited in potential resources on that track AND you'll have a long day further from shore -- AND, once you get south to Muskegon or Grand Haven you'll STILL have to make a 70 mile open water crossing (which will be more exposed and have equally less access to assistance should it be needed).

(Now, you could shorten that day by going to Beaver Island, depending on how long you like to run your days. But note that Beaver Island is still 18nm off of the main shore, so you will have exposure either way).

That said, that's where my comfort level lies. You ARE correct that, once you've made it to Charlevoix there are marinas/ports/inlets approximately every 40 miles on the East coast. But I think the open water exposure is a bigger risk than sticking closer to shore in a less populated area. NOT that there is anything wrong with open water trips (my spouse and I have regularly done 100 mile open water trips on Superior with out issue) -- but it is a potentially riskier venture.

IF you do choose to stick with the Michigan side the Michigan and if you want to stay in marinas the DNR has an excellent reservation system for their state marinas:


You can register via the web or, in my experience, get the phone number and call. We were 37 feet (and a 6.5 foot draft) -- depending on the marina the website sometimes didn't have accurate info and said there were no slips that fit which, upon calling, we found out was untrue.

If you are anchoring then it's mostly a matter of finding areas with good holding in the various bays/inlets.

One other note, FWIW -- when I was planning our trip I used Google Maps (in the web browser) and the Measure Distance function in satellite mode to figure out how for between various ports of call and estimate the length of each leg. I know the chart plotter can do the same, but having the Satellite view was helpful in seeing each marina, how close they are to town, and measuring multiple legs (then using the chart plotter to see depths and really zoom in to each area.

Ok, two other notes:

I'd recommend getting a good weather radar app for your phone and watching that marine forecast site from earlier. Refresh/check regularly through the day. Watch for storm systems over land that may be tracking your way. That way you'll hopefully have time to pull down canvas and/or find a place to tuck in before any systems hit. You'll most likely have phone data for most of the trip, but regular checking through out the day is important (you're on a bigger boat, but see the other thread about the father and two kids who passed away after getting hit by an unexpected storm in the Green Bay area last weekend).

Sorry if I'm getting too wordy here, but hopefully some of this is helpful.

Doug
 
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Nov 8, 2007
1,580
Hunter 27_75-84 Sandusky Harbor Marina, Ohio
Lot's of good advice so far. If I were planning this trip, I would go Mackinac to Beaver Island, then Beaver Island to Manistique. Both legs are well below 40 nm, and Manistique is on the west shore allowing a protected lee shore for the rest of your trip.
We also have a rule that on a hot summer day when pop up storms are possible, we will be off the lake by 4 in the afternoon when these storms start to appear. Combined with NOAA forecasts and weather radar, we have only been caught in threatening thunderstorm weather once in over 700 days sailing on the Great Lakes.
You might also look at joining the Great Lakes Cruising Club. For around $100 per year, you get the best harbor reports anywhere, and a captain in each port to whom you can call ahead for advice and local knowledge.

Bon voyage! Cruising the Great Lakes has been our great escape for the past 25 summers!
 
Nov 8, 2007
1,580
Hunter 27_75-84 Sandusky Harbor Marina, Ohio
Wind and wave comments:
Wind and waves usually come from the same direction on the Great Lakes where the “fetch” (distance the wind has to work on the waves) is usually less than 100 miles.
Even if motoring, you want wind and waves coming 45+ degrees off your course. Sailing a long leg into a west wind makes for a slow, bumpy passage!
Prevailing winds are from the SW. If the winds are from the W they are usually shifting clockwise, so you can wait until they get to the NW, then N, then NE.

As you already know, currents on the Great Lakes are below a knot except in the Detroit/St. Clair system. So they are not a big factor in passage making.
 
Jan 7, 2011
5,470
Oday 322 East Chicago, IN
Some very solid suggestions above.

My notes would say that winds on Lake Michigan are anything but “prevailing”. I bought my first boat in Milwaukee and needed to sail it down to NW Indiana. The day I chose to take delivery (early April) saw 20-30 knots winds blowing east. Huge seas on the west building on the Wisconsin side of the Lake. Made it to a harbor in Winthrop Harbor that day and spent the night. The next day, winds still blowing 20, but they clocked around to the east, and sailing down the coast past Chicago to Indiana was a pleasant experience.

So, be Prepared to sit out a day or 2 in a marina if the waves are going to get gnarly. Days of strong winds in the same direction can create nasty waves.

i would love to hear more about your experience getting through the canal system as a single-hand sailor. You have had quite an interesting experience and I hope you share your experience.

Good luck on the last leg of your journey.

Greg
 
Jul 1, 2010
990
Catalina 350 Port Huron
I'm a little late to the party. Not sure if you've already made your crossing. When we were up there this summer, we crossed at Leland over to Washington Island and anchored there. Coming back, we anchored at the point north of Summer Island, and went over to the anchorage on the south of Garden Island.

I see several have mentioned Manastique. Have you all been there recently, and is there enough depth at the entrance channel? We almost went that way, and I called ahead and was given pretty specific directions for navigating it. We changed our mind due to favorable winds other ways, but I'm not sure I would have trusted that we wouldn't have scraped mud going in there.

If you aren't in a hurry to just get there, there are so many places to explore on the east side before you cross. From the Mackinac bridge you could go to St. Helena Island for a stop and maybe a tour of the light house, or go down to Beaver Island or Garden Island. You could then cross from there or go back east and work your way down and stop at Petosky, Charlevoix, Elk Rapids, explore Grand Traverse Bay, etc and cross further south.

I mentioned Garden Island. Not as popular as Beaver Island, but one of the nicest anchorages we've been in, and you may have it to yourself...

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