cracked fiberglass

Jun 2, 2004
18
- - indian lake
I uncovered my Seaward Fox today to prep for launching and found this surprise on the edge of the cockpit seat. I have no idea how this happened. It's been on the trailer at my Ohio farm all winter and covered with a tarp. I guess I've got a fiberglass repair to do but my concern is that water probably got inside and I don't know any way to get it out. I don't think the Seaward Fox has a bilge access. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. See piccrack.jpg
 
Jan 1, 2006
7,509
Slickcraft 26 Sailfish
My guess would be freeze/thaw cycle. The core may have been or is still wet. If the boat doesn't have bilge access or a drain plug, then you can install an inspection port. Since it's on a trailer can you tilt the trailer and see if you hear water running back and forth. The potentially wet core is a bigger problem than some water in the hull.
 
Jul 29, 2006
42
-Catalina -2000 36' Pepin, WI
Suggest you might cut out an inspection port. Most marine chandleries sell water tight inspection ports, then you can suck out any potential water. Google “marine inspection port window”.
 
Jan 11, 2014
12,820
Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
The root cause of this problem is pretty common. When boats are built gelcoat is sprayed into the mold and then the fiberglass is laid up in side the mold. In the corners, where the radius is tight, a void often forms. These areas are subject to cracking and water can enter and freeze.

The repair is pretty straightforward, grind away the cracked and failing gelcoat and then lay up some new glass, fair and gelcoat or paint. Of course the execution of the repair is not quite that simple. Check out the BoatworksToday channel on youtube. Andy has several videos on this kind of repair.
 
Mar 1, 2012
2,182
1961 Rhodes Meridian 25 Texas coast
The root cause of this problem is pretty common. When boats are built gelcoat is sprayed into the mold and then the fiberglass is laid up in side the mold. In the corners, where the radius is tight, a void often forms. These areas are subject to cracking and water can enter and freeze.

The repair is pretty straightforward, grind away the cracked and failing gelcoat and then lay up some new glass, fair and gelcoat or paint. Of course the execution of the repair is not quite that simple. Check out the BoatworksToday channel on youtube. Andy has several videos on this kind of repair.
exactly, but I'd fill with some thickened epoxy first, then glass..

Spoken as a retired boat repair guy :)
 
Aug 3, 2012
2,542
Performance Cruising Telstar 28 302 Watkins Glen
If there is only a gelcote void, you do not need to lay in new fiberglass and epoxy unless you have a huge gap to fill. I doubt you do, or you would have found this much sooner!. You can just grind out the void and cracked gelcote, clean it with acetone, and fill it with thickened epoxy or marine filler. You can then apply new gelcote. The idea is that the fiberglass layup trapped some air underneath and created a gap (void) between the fiberglass and the gelcote. I had dozens, maybe a hundred of these voids on my Telstar. Grinding them out, filling them, fairing them, and applying the finish, paint in my case, fixed them fine. I have only found one more after 2 seasons sailing. Now, I have created a few more spider cracks, but those are treated the same as a void, so no biggie.
If the fiberglass underneath is compromised, and you can see the core, you will need to see if the core is wet or rotted. If it is wet, dry it before repairing it. You may be able to aid drying with acetone. If it is rotted, you may be able to fill it with epoxy, or you may need to replace the core. There are techniques for both.
I second checking out Andy at Boatworks Today on YouTube.
 

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Jan 15, 2006
927
Macgregor 22 Silverton
"Spoken as a retired boat repair guy :)"
learn something new each time at this forum where can I sign up :)
 
Jun 2, 2004
18
- - indian lake
After further inspection I found that there is a wooden post running from the top edge of the cockpit seat to the bottom of the cabin sole. Somehow I got about 1/2" of water in the cabin that froze lifting that post and cracking the seat! I've repaired the crack with Marine Tex. I don't think there's water in the core as all water found was contained above fiberglass.
 
Aug 3, 2012
2,542
Performance Cruising Telstar 28 302 Watkins Glen
That wooden post does not sound stock or like a good idea. Wood is going to absorb water and rot. I would remove it and build a fiberglass post.
 
Jun 8, 2004
10,410
-na -NA Anywhere USA
Dlochner hit it on the head as to what may have occurred as I had seen a lot as a former dealer on various mfgs. boats. In the ordinal layup sometimes the employee does not take the time to use a resin roller to force the fiberglass up against the gelcoat. It takes a bump to open up the void. Epoxy filler is the best suggestion to fill in and then paint either in gel or a whit plastic. White is difficult to match
 
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Jun 2, 2004
18
- - indian lake
Dlochner hit it on the head as to what may have occurred as I had seen a lot as a former dealer on various mfgs. boats. In the ordinal layup sometimes the employee does not take the time to use a resin roller to force the fiberglass up against the gelcoat. It takes a bump to open up the void. Epoxy filler is the best suggestion to fill in and then paint either in gel or a whit plastic. White is difficult to match
Indeed it's hard to match. Seaward white is slightly gray/blue. Island Packet now makes Seaward. They sent me some gelcoat but it was IP yellow!