Consensus on what to do with extra sails.

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Dec 11, 2010
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catalina 27 Chicago
This spring will be starting my second season with my, clean/solid, 1978 C27.

The boat was raced on Lake Michigan two owners ago. So, of course, it came with 5 head sails including a laminate 150%, as well as the old main with the C27 logo. All of them in great to good/usable condition except that the 150% laminate is starting to breakdown.
The most recent P.O. had installed a headsail furler 10 yrs ago and had only the 150% laminate set up with a luff tape, so that explains the breakdown. This was the, seemingly, obvious choice because it was the only headsail that was "High Tech" laminate. The other headsails that came with the boat were a 170% woven genoa, a 130% woven Jib, and a smaller (storm?) woven jib, and a unused Jenaker?/Spinaker?(not sure?), all hank-on of course. The new main is a loose footed one so I assume it is a step up from the original and of course in better condition so it doesn't really figure into any of this.

Now, I've read that some consider the 150% actually a little over powered, for a C27, in my typical sailing conditions on Lake Michigan (windy!). But of course it can be partially fureled which is quite often the case!

Well anyway, now that you have all that information, here are a few random question I have floating around in my head that I'm looking for consensus on:
Important to note here: I sail mostly solo!
#1:
Would you consider forgoing the deteriorating 150% laminate as the primary headsail and install a luff tape on the 130% woven and use it as the primary instead, (because of it's "theoretically" more appropriate size and its good condition), while hanging on to the other unused sails?
OR
#2:
Would you sell the unused sails to offset the price of a new laminate headsail? And if so, would it be a new 130 or a 150?
OR
#3:
Would you absolutely keep the unused sails "just in case", and just bite the whole bullet on a new one?

Thanks in advance, for what I hope will be a lot of feedback!
Joel H.
 

Squidd

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Sep 26, 2011
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AMF Alcort Paceship PY26 Washburn Wi. Apostle Islands
I think you should send them to me so I can dispose of them in an enviromently sound manner...

Actually, I could come pick them up...(if you prefer)...:)
 
Apr 5, 2010
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Catalina 27- 1984 Grapevine
Having sailed on Lake Michigan and been knocked down in the warm tropical water, I'd definitely go with the lesser size. If you hang on to them you will probably still have them two boats from now, having forgotten they were in your storeroom or basement. Sell, or trade for something you do need or want for the boat now. Seems like boats either come with bare essential sails or enough sails to circumnavigate.
 

caguy

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Sep 22, 2006
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Catalina, Luger C-27, Adventure 30 Marina del Rey
If you decide to sell the genaker send me a pm.
 
Dec 11, 2010
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catalina 27 Chicago
Thanks for the reply, Shipwreck. That's what I'm thinking, but I want to take my time and get some opinions before I do anything permanent.
Happy sailing,
Joel H.
 
Feb 26, 2004
23,056
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
You said you sail solo. Do you race? Do you intend to do so?

If you're only a solo cruiser, with a limited budget, an exotic headsail may not be necessary for you. And you're right, 150% on any boat is a BIG headsail.

A good compromise is a 130 for your furler. Not too big, but will work in lighter air and can be rolled up a tad for when it gets too windy. IIRC, Catalina is equipping its new boats with 135s, pretty much the same size sail.
 
Dec 11, 2010
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catalina 27 Chicago
Do I race?
Well no, and that's the question. Will I ever decide to spice up my sailing experience through racing? I don't know, at 58, probably a low probability. But if I did decide to, I bet I'd wished I kept these sails. Right?

That's my dilemma!
 
Feb 26, 2004
23,056
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
Joel, not necessarily. It's not always the sails that make the racer - don't get the two confused. I started racing at your age and spent over five years getting anywhere near good. And did it with 20 year old sails. We raced one design, and got appropriate handicaps for our 110 jib (our largest) when everyone else was sailing with 130s. We eventually did very well.

Consider your sailing preferences now and buy the right sails for what YOU want to do, not what you maybe will do.
 
Dec 11, 2010
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catalina 27 Chicago
Thanks Stu. That sounds like a good perspective to consider. Getting back to your exotic headsail point, though I don't race, I do like overtaking unsuspecting larger boats with great regularity. Which seems to be the case with my current setup......LOL
Happy sailing,
Joel H.
 
Dec 11, 2010
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catalina 27 Chicago
Well, I've got to head down to the yard to take advantage of this warmi-sh weather.
I'll check back in a few. Keep the replies coming.
Thanks,
Joel H.
 
Dec 29, 2011
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Catalina 27 Kootenay Lake
My Catalina 27 has a 150 deck sweeper on a roller ferling..and a quantum max main. As we have summer winds of 5-12 knots w.occasiontional 12-30knot blows...which i have had everything up for it gets hair y but managed solo. Eventually reefing the main. after ferling the head sail...To half size or so...after a while w it all up to get a feel for it...gets the heart racing...i move the jib cars back to add twist and spill some wind if needed to level her out..on a friends boat we had a spinaker up in 25 knots and that was an experience i will not forget. ..yeeha...
 
Jun 7, 2004
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Ericson 30 + Little River SC
Bite the bullet and by a new 135. With a new head sail you will not need any others except the main incase you decide to buy new there as well
 
Dec 11, 2010
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catalina 27 Chicago
Bite the bullet and by a new 135. With a new head sail you will not need any others except the main incase you decide to buy new there as well
I think your right.

I checked, and the 130 I have will take $400-$500 dollars for the luff tape and sun protector to set up for the furler. I'm not even sure it built well enough to take it without having the sailmaker look at it. I might as well put that money toward a new 135, as you say, all set up, for around a $1000-$1400 depending on if I go Laminate or not.

I've decided I'm going to keep the Genaker. Cayguy kind of clued me in
and now I want to learn to fly that.

That still leaves the hank-on Storm Jib, the 110, and the 130. I should probably part with those to offset some of the cost of a new 135.
Happy sailing,
Joel H.
 
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