cockpit drain??

Mar 5, 2012
152
Hunter 37-cutter Saint Augustine
Hello friends, this question goes out to the 37 cutter owners are you happy having just two drains in the cockpit I have thought about adding two more in the front to get the water out faster and wonder if anyone has thought about doing this mod,any feedback would be appriciated thanks Frank
 
May 27, 2004
2,055
Hunter 30_74-83 Ponce Inlet FL
I have considered the same idea. I re-powered my H30C with a 2GM20 which turned out to change the arm and moment of the engine's weight. As a result, water pools in the front of the cockpit.
But, I decided to wait for full cruise loading to see what happens before such a major alteration.
G
 
Mar 20, 2012
3,983
Cal 34-III, MacGregor 25 Salem, Oregon
personally, I think questions like this may get better response if posted in the "ask all sailors" section, because cockpit drains and the issues with them draining slow isnt specific to the boat you own, but is problematic on many brands of boats when there is a large dose of water ingested into the cockpit on a regular basis...

there are 4 drains in the cockpit of our 34 (one in each corner), which is better than two ONLY IF the water can get out the thru hull fittings/valves as fast as the scupper holes can take it in, of which there are usually only two thru hulls draining the 4 cockpit scuppers.... the entire plumbing and its routing DOES matter.

but really, I think 4 cockpit scuppers a lame effort to drain a lot of water out in a hurry.
if it were me trying to figure out how to dump water from the cockpit faster than (2) 1-1/2 " drains could allow, I would install a large 3" or 4" thru-hull fitting in the rear wall of the cockpit footwell, and then use a stainless transom exhaust outlet thru the transom..... with a rubber hose connecting them together, and use a rubber exhaust flapper on the outside, if necessary to keep a surge out.
one 3" tube will allow twice as much water flow as (2) 1-1/2" tubes will, and a single 4" tube will allow 30% more than that.... and a single large drain is much easier to install and plumb...

the installation of a thru-hull in the in the rear of the foot well wall will probably be high enough so there would be no back feeding due to wave surge, but the flapper valve would insure this, if necessary.
and it does not need to be at the very, very bottom of the foot well, but as low as possible would be reasonable because once the majority of the unsafe weight/water drained away, the last couple inches will quickly drain away thru the smaller existing scupper holes....
 
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May 24, 2004
7,174
CC 30 South Florida
Yes, it seems a simpler idea just to enlarge the two scuppers you already have. If your cockpit gets swamped I think a bucket will do best.
 
Jun 2, 2004
5,802
Hunter 37-cutter, '79 41 23' 30"N 82 33' 20"W--------Huron, OH
The advantage of the high bridgedeck is that you can take in a lot of water without it getting into the boat. I have been in a lot of heavy weather and never had more than an inch in the cockpit. There was a mod detailed many years ago but I don't think he posted it to the Modifications here. In that one the owner simply made the scuppers larger. A huge task either way. Do you really want more holes, hoses, and clamps in your boat?
 

Johnb

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Jan 22, 2008
1,461
Hunter 37-cutter Richmond CA
The original HC37 installation had the cockpit floor drains crossing to the other side before exit through the hull on the same side as the drain hole. The first picture shows the original installation in my boat.
This was done because otherwise, if you are sailing heeled and fast, water spits up into the cockpit through the drain. I found that out after installing new drain hoses without the cross over.
My reasoning for eliminating the cross over was that it would promote better draining. I am probably never going to change back because the "spitting up" has never been anything but a minor issue and the drains definitely work better. There is also much less spaghetti down there.
The other picture shows how much fun it is working on those hoses. You will find it very character building.
 

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Jun 2, 2004
5,802
Hunter 37-cutter, '79 41 23' 30"N 82 33' 20"W--------Huron, OH
JohnB, what year is your boat? Interested because my 1979 exhaust and manual bilge are on port.
 
Jun 8, 2004
1,065
C&C Frigate 36 St. Margarets Bay, Nova Scotia
My hose arrangement is the same as John's - it must be part of the pre/post 1982 changes. I will have to note it in the database. If someone could send me a photo of the pre-1982 stern hose arrangements...that would be great.

I un-crossed my cockpit drain hoses, found the "spitting" problem worse, and put them back to crossed-over. And ended up with a couple of lengths of expensive hose I will never use (too short!)

BTW - anyone who has those old 'ribbed & cuffed' hoses should replace them - they are an accident waiting to happen!
 
Mar 5, 2012
152
Hunter 37-cutter Saint Augustine
My boat is an 82. exhuast on starboard and manual pump on ports side, cockpit drian pipes are straight thru with no cris X cross. also get no spit up even when knot meter says 9 knots. one funny thing is that there is a thru hull in the very back I would say mayby 10 inch, from the transom that is not used it is on the starboard side with no hoses attached sea cock closed. I cant figure out what that was about it,s probably 1.1/4 diameter
 
Jun 8, 2004
1,065
C&C Frigate 36 St. Margarets Bay, Nova Scotia
My boat is an 82. exhuast on starboard and manual pump on ports side, cockpit drian pipes are straight thru with no cris X cross. also get no spit up even when knot meter says 9 knots. one funny thing is that there is a thru hull in the very back I would say mayby 10 inch, from the transom that is not used it is on the starboard side with no hoses attached sea cock closed. I cant figure out what that was about it,s probably 1.1/4 diameter
Possibly someone was planning a propane locker and that was to be the drain?
 
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