cockpit-bilge pipe

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Victor Schreffler

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Oct 30, 2019
148
In the cockpit there's a plug that's connected to a pipe that runs to
the bilge. Is this the place to hook up a manual bilge pump? How does
this work?

Victor
Blue Fin
V1553
 
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Vega1447

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Oct 19, 2019
921
Albin Vega 27 Limerick
Apparently it *is* a bilge pump..

You pull up the plug and water is pumped from the bilges (in keel) into
cockpit.

Not much use if cockpit is filled by a breaking wave :)

Mine is very stiff and I'm happy to leave it alone as I have a manual
bilge pump in cockpit locker.

John
Vega 1447 Breakaway

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+353-61-333644 x 2148 (Switch)
Mathematics Dept. e-mail: John.Kinsella@...
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florance.anderson

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Aug 18, 2015
37
In a message dated 5/30/2007 3:37:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
John.Kinsella@... writes:




Apparently it *is* a bilge pump..

You pull up the plug and water is pumped from the bilge's (in keel) into
cockpit.

Not much use if cockpit is filled by a breaking wave :)

Mine is very stiff and I'm happy to leave it alone as I have a manual
bilge pump in cockpit locker.

John
Vega 1447 Breakaway

John A. Kinsella Ph: +353-61-202148 (Direct)
+353-61-333644 x 2148 (Switch)
Mathematics Dept. e-mail: _John.Kinsella@John._ (mailto:John.Kinsella@...)
University of Limerick FAX: +353-61-334927
IRELAND Web: _http://jkcray.http://jkht_ (John Kinsella's Website)
 
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Vega1447

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Oct 19, 2019
921
Albin Vega 27 Limerick
Hi Florence,

I have this problem when I refill my water tank - water comes from filler
pipe and runs into bilge below tank and runs aft to bilge in keel.

On the way it runs past the batteries which are not in a box but are
placed in the space just forward of the keel cavity under the small wooden
lid.

If your batteries are in a box I'm not sure how water gets into box?

Fresh water flowing past for a few seconds wont do the batteries any
harm - and you can just pump out the bilge after topping up the water
tank..

The long term solution might be to look at the water filler pipe.

All the best,

John

Vega 1447 Breakaway
 
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emmajen5

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Feb 28, 2006
127
Florence,

I've had the same fresh water leak. It turned out to be coming
from the fresh water foot pump in the galley. It is sited lower
than bow water tank and if leaking can empty your tank into the
bilge in no time at all. The short term solution, since my pump
continued to work despite the leaky seals, was to install an
inline valve beween the tank and the pump. That solved the
problem for me, though I've had to put up a little sign
reminding me and the crew to turn the valve to off after using
the pump. Hope this helps.

Garry
"Raven" V. 2427
 
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pjacobs55

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Oct 30, 2019
1,459
I had a leak in my water tank, right at he filler neck fitting. A
plumber friend suggested heating an old carving knife red hot and
carefully running it over the leaking crack. I tried this and to my
surprise the plastic melted and flowed quite nicely, repairing the
split.
Removing the tank is not too difficult, just a bit tedious undoing
all the screws. The anchor locker bulkhead has to come out first,
then the v-berth plywood. It helps to be quite flexible as one has to
contort oneself to get at some of the fastenings. Before I put the
tank back in I made sure the fibreglass hull insides were free of any
nubs that could damage the tank.

The icebox on my Vega is on the starboard side, just aft of the sink.
To get at it involves removing the counter top. The two sliding doors
to the locker over the sink must be persuaded out first, then the
sink and top come out quite easily, being held in with a few screws.
You have to disconnect the drain pipe, too. At the bottom of the ice
box is a small nipple that a hose slips onto, leading to the bilge.
My boat is a Series I, so may be different from yours.

Peter
#1331 'Sin Tacha'
 
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florance.anderson

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Aug 18, 2015
37
In a message dated 5/31/2007 2:01:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Garry_McKevitt@... writes:




Florence,

I've had the same fresh water leak. It turned out to be coming
from the fresh water foot pump in the galley. It is sited lower
than bow water tank and if leaking can empty your tank into the
bilge in no time at all. The short term solution, since my pump
continued to work despite the leaky seals, was to install an
inline valve beween the tank and the pump. That solved the
problem for me, though I've had to put up a little sign
reminding me and the crew to turn the valve to off after using
the pump. Hope this helps.

Garry
"Raven" V. 2427
 
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emmajen5

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Feb 28, 2006
127
Florance,

I mean the foot pump that supplies fresh water to the sink in
the galley. When it leaks the water tends to run back to the
low point which is the locker below the starboard settee and
then runs through a drain there down through the battery shelf
and on into the bilge. When you get enough water in the bilge,
it will fill back around the batteries. The fresh water supply
to the galley sink pump runs through this locker. That is where
I installed the valve. If you have a leak in the system you will
often find water in this locker.

Garry
 
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florance.anderson

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Aug 18, 2015
37
In a message dated 5/31/2007 12:37:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
prjacobs@... writes:




I had a leak in my water tank, right at he filler neck fitting. A
plumber friend suggested heating an old carving knife red hot and
carefully running it over the leaking crack. I tried this and to my
surprise the plastic melted and flowed quite nicely, repairing the
split.
Removing the tank is not too difficult, just a bit tedious undoing
all the screws. The anchor locker bulkhead has to come out first,
then the v-berth plywood. It helps to be quite flexible as one has to
contort oneself to get at some of the fastenings. Before I put the
tank back in I made sure the fibreglass hull insides were free of any
nubs that could damage the tank.

The icebox on my Vega is on the starboard side, just aft of the sink.
To get at it involves removing the counter top. The two sliding doors
to the locker over the sink must be persuaded out first, then the
sink and top come out quite easily, being held in with a few screws.
You have to disconnect the drain pipe, too. At the bottom of the ice
box is a small nipple that a hose slips onto, leading to the bilge.
My boat is a Series I, so may be different from yours.

Peter
#1331 'Sin Tacha'
 
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wxt8981

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Oct 31, 2019
562
HI.:
When I sailed the Great Lakes, I used to have 2 foot-pumps
under the sink- one for fresh water and the other one for
water from the sea. I'm now in a saltwater environment. I
closed the seawater intake and took out both foot-pumps. I
have now an electrical pump for the fresh water.The
electrical pump is close to the water tank foreward. the
switch is next to the sink-No leeks!
In the bilge I have an electrical pump with a float
switch, There's hardly ever any water in the bilge, only
very little, the flow-back from the system.
I've also permanently closed the intake-outlet for the
head. The fewer holes the better! Besides, pump-out
stations are few and far apart. I now use a porta-putty-
it's a lot easier.
Wilhelm, V-257
 
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emmajen5

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Feb 28, 2006
127
Wilhelm,

I still have the through-hull for the sea water inlet but the
pump is long long. And I think the foot pump for my fresh water
is going to be long gone soon. I like your design for the
electric water pump. Easy to use and more accessable for
servicing by locating it in the bow by the water tank. My tank
is holds 25 gallons I think, which I understand is standard for
a stock Vega. Forance's 75 gallon tank must be a custom job.
Is it located in the bow, Florance?

Garry
 
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wxt8981

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Oct 31, 2019
562
Garry.:
I plugged all through-hulls (below water line)with only the
cooling water intake for the engine open.
I sail singlehanded close to 100% and I stay out for long
periods (weeks). I like to have it simple and safe. I try
to get fresh water every 4 or 5 days- so far never run out.
For sea water I use the bucket- much better than with a
pump (and a hole in the hull).
I keep 3 batteries- two for the engine and one for
interior.
The circuit for the 2 and the 1 is separated. So far... no
problems.
The Vega is a great boat- for one or two persons. I could
have gotten another boat, but the Vega suits me fine- for
close to almost 30 years now..:)
Wilhelm, V-257
 
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florance.anderson

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Aug 18, 2015
37
In a message dated 5/31/2007 7:41:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Garry_McKevitt@... writes:




Wilhelm,

I still have the through-hull for the sea water inlet but the
pump is long long. And I think the foot pump for my fresh water
is going to be long gone soon. I like your design for the
electric water pump. Easy to use and more accessable for
servicing by locating it in the bow by the water tank. My tank
is holds 25 gallons I think, which I understand is standard for
a stock Vega. Forance's 75 gallon tank must be a custom job.
Is it located in the bow, Florance?

Garry
 
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albinvega1865

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Dec 13, 2006
227
Is anyone out there familiar with this company and product? I just found it goodling my way around an Albin Vega search and they look quite interesting. Seems to be a nice, light, simple yet beefy design?


Chris
 
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brockhaus77

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Jul 24, 2002
149
Florance,

assuming you are either on the hard or in salt water, there can be only 2
sources of fresh water (you can check that it really is fresh water by dipping
and licking your finger ;-) - rain or the water tank. If you see more water
coming in without it raining, it must be the water tank. Since you say you
already replaced all (??) of the hoses, the most like problems would be a
crack in the tank itself, a leaking pump (either of the 2 sinks) or an ill-fitting
(not properly hose-clamped) hose connection. (I'd look at the nipples on
the tank itself where the hoses attach - I put a lot of vaseline there before
clamping the hoses as good as I could).
Check the lockers under the settees - if you find moisture there, it's a good
bet that something is leaking along the line hose - foot pump - hose -
faucet.

Good luck - Sebastian (VegaLyra 1060)

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it makes for very cluttered-up reading. It's best to erase all of the stuff your
email program automatically copies into your reply unless you are refering very
specifically to something a previous poster said...
 
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