Chartering in the BVI'[s

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Jun 4, 2004
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- - Long Beach, NY
I finally got the wife to agree to charter down in the BVI's some time this year, although she still has some reservations. Her biggest concern is anchoring, as we have had some tough times trying to anchor our Cat 30. After attending Strictly Sail in Philly, it appears we are not the only ones. This was the only seminar that was standing room only. I believe my technique is fine, my choice of anchor and ground tackle may be the problem. While I was at the show I spoke with The Moorings, and they assured me that it was not necssary to anchor as there were mooring balls at each destination. This leads me to my first question; is this true, and how difficult is it to anchor if it becomes necessary? Regarding provisions, The Moorings offers several plans. My family consists of lousey eaters, and my daughter has some severe allergies to certain foods (soy, dairy, red 40 etc). Would we be better off provisioning on our own? Regarding children, my kids are 8 and 10 and I am a little concerned that they might be bored. Are there enough activities to keep them occupied? I know the boat comes with a dinghy and snorkle equipment, my concern is after that what do they do. Are there places to explore on land? I do not expect to find an amusment park or arcades, but is there enough to keep them busy? We currently do not do as much cruising as I would like, partly the result of the kids being in summer day camp and work schedules. I am therefore not as up-to-speed on energy management on extended voyages. Is there enough battery capacity to run lights, stereos DVD players? I would assume one needs to run the engine to maintain, but is it ever an issue? We are still not sure what time of year to book. I have heard about the "christmas winds" and my wife would rather be home for the holidays. My kids are off in mid February and we usually take a vacation, either Florida or Vermont. I have checked the rates and althoug high, I would prefer to vacation where it is warm during the winter months. The only other time we could get away would be after the kids finish summer camp which would be the last week of August. The Moorings and others offer some significant discounts, but I would rather be sailing on my own boat in the summer. Last question (I promise) The Moorings offers two levels of boats, their Exclusive and Club. I would assume the Exclusive are newer boats, and the Club are older. The discount is significant, but at what price? I want this to be a "once in a lifetime" experience and do not want to try and save a few bucks and ruin the experience. Has anyone experienced both? Thaks for any help. I am sure my wife will buy every book ever written on the subject once a decision has been made.
 
Jan 8, 2007
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Hunter 37.5 New Bern. N.C.
BVI CHARTER

CHIEF CHARTERED IN BVI THIS PAST SEPTEMBER IF YOU ARE PLANNING ON GOING IN AUG OR SEPT KEEP IN MIND HURRICANE SEASON WE FOUND MOST RESTAURANTS AND MARINAS WERE CLOSED DURING OUR CHARTER AS FOR ANCHORING JUST ABOUT ALL ANCHORAGES HAD MOORING BALLS AND THOSE THAT DIDN'T WERE NO PROBLEM I WOULD DO MY OWN PROVISIONING AS WE DID IN TORTOLA THERE ARE 2 SUPERMARKETS WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE AS FOR CRUISING WE STAYED ON THE BVI SIDE AS TRAVELING BETWEEN U.S. AND BRITISH SIDES ARE A HASTLE (CUSTOMS) BATTERY POWER SHOULD BE NO PROBLEM AS LONG AS YOU KEEP AN EYE ON THEM AND RUN ENGINE AS NECESSARY PICK YOURSELF UP A BVI CRUISING GUIDE AS IT WILL BE VERY HELPFULL HIPE THIS INFO WAS USEFUL AND ENJOY THE TRIP JIM
 
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Lamar Sumerlin

BVI Charter --- Comments

Chief, We did a charter in the BVI with Sunsail last year. I prefer a charter in March, April, May or June; but the choice pretty well comes down to budget and schedule if you stay away from the windy season. Based on our experience, I think you may want to go to some places that did not have mooring balls or even if mooring balls were available, you might not arrive in time to get one. We chartered a ~50 ft. monohull that was equipped with electric winch/chain rode and really didn't have any problems with anchoring. However, there were several aboard that were experienced at anchoring. For us, it was worth the convenience for Sunsail to do the provisioning but then we didn't have any special dietary needs. A good up to date guide book would be the best source of information for activities in the BVI. There are walking trails at the Baths, Norman's Island, Jost Van Dyke and maybe other stops as well. It will be necessary to run the engines to keep the batteries charged. As I recall, we were told to run the engines an 1.5 hours each morning and evening. I would guess the boat that you would charter could handle a normal electrical load. We don't have any experience with chartering a new boat versus a older boat, but for me it wouldn't be worth the extra money.
 
Jun 4, 2004
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Beneteau Oceanis 352 NYC
Just Got Back....

There are mooring balls at most locations. We anchored about half the time and had zero problems, even at Jost Van Dyke. We generally do the split provisioning and never end up eating all the food. If you are leaving from Road Harbor, there is a grocery store about a 1/4 of a mile away from the base. We've shopped there before and it seemed resonable, there is also a store at the moorings base. There are a few things to do, exploring the Bath's, wind surfing at the Bitter End but, then again, I've never really looked for much. I am sure the moorings would be able to give you some good hints. I do a lot of cruising and find that even adults need to be occupied, giving everyone a job usually works. The energy issue - not an issue if you run the engine enough. At the beginning of the recent trip I was constantly following people and turning off cabin lights - I finally gave up and we were fine - the start battery is seperate from the house battery so as long as you can start your engine, you have power. Just follow the suggestions from the mooring and you should be fine. I never noticed the difference between exclusive and club boats. Although you have to be prepared for mishaps, they are machines after all. Out of the 10 boats that we had in our regatta, there were very few problems and the moorings where always there to help. It is still one of the best vacations I take each year. I come back relaxed and mellow to the point of almost having no reactions to life's daily stresses. The sailing is usually great and you can motor if you get bored or need to get to the next destination. Like the Nike commercials - Just do it!
 
Dec 27, 2005
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Hunter 36 Chicago
We chartered with Footloose

Last November. Footloose boats are retired Moorings boats. The one we chartered was a 36' Benny. No problems with the boat outside of the transom shower not working. Bet you won't find much if any difference between the Exclusive and the Club outside of a few scratches on the hull maybe where people have bounced off a dock somewhere. Chartering again this April with Conch. Nothing like it, you'll have a blast. You may want to buy bottled water when you get there - they say there is nothing wrong with the onboard water - but we found a few bugs in ours and the taste wasn't that great. Just buy the gallon jugs.
 
Jan 9, 2007
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Catana 471 Norfolk, VA
Easiest sailing on the planet

Chief - Mooring balls are almost everywhere. In fact, in some places you are not allowed to drop a hook. But if you do have to anchor - no problem, mon. Find a sandy spot and work it till you get it right. Oh, the mooring balls are not free. $25 - $30US per night. If you rent one at Saba Rock you get a free bag of ice and water refill. I highly recommend you punt the charter company provisions and do it yourself - if you're chartering from someplace on Tortola. Google Bobby's Market and off you go! Order on line in advance and they deliver to your boat for no charge. MUCH cheaper and you can be more picky. Plus - guess where the charter companies get their groceries they sell to you, hmmmm? They just tack on extra $$. Depending on the boat, electric goodies can run you down. Ya gotta be smart about it. Watching DVDs in the BVI ought to be illegal. :) Plenty to explore on shore. Try some fishing. Best time of year to go is May or as soon as the kids get out of school. Cheaper, before storm season, and not as crowded as the "high" season. Are you thinking of Moorings exclusively? Why? Sunsail, TMM, Cat Co, etc. Get a quote and start shopping around. They WILL deal. I NEVER paid published rates. Dave S/V Pas de Deux Catana 471-44
 

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Jun 1, 2004
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Hunter 356 Harve de Grace
Relax

Chief, it is a great place to sail......we went two years ago and loved it. For teh first time in the area, the flotilla's that they offer are a great way to go. Besides having a lead boat that can assist with moorings, where to go and not go, you probably will hook up with others that have kids so that your young ones have someone to relate with. We did the flotilla with 7 other boats and it was fantastic. The lead boat gave us guidelines and a general timeline and we were off. Plus they arrange several evening parties for social time. I know for me, having the lead boat allowed me to relax more and enjoy the trip because I didn't have to be as concerned with where to go and what to do and not have to worry about what did or didn't work on the boat. We did moorings, but I heard footloose and TMM are just as good, just a little older boat by a metter of a couple of years. If the kid bordom factor is a huge concern, besides the companions in a flotilla, mooring discussed a familiy flotialla option where every boat had kids aboard. Provisions - we did the easy on the cook deal....a bit of a rip off. Besides being pricey, they were LATE getting us provisioned and that was a real pain. Do what someone suiggested and order on-line thru Bobby's. A couple of boats in our fleet did that and they seemed much happier about their provisions. Battery life - wasn't much of a concern for us. We ran the motor daily as instructed and was fine. One boat in out group had a teenage boy that loved the dingy and they ran out of gas about half way in the trip. The lead boat just gave them more gas.
 
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Jim P.

Great, but if I do it again...

We had a wonderful time on a Moorings Beneteau 473. It was comfy for 7 of us and Moorings was a class act. Some observations though: -The daily desire to find a mooring meant that we usually missed the only real sailing wind in the afternoon. -Our Bruce anchor just wouldn't hold on the coral bottom. We even dove down to dig it in with little luck. -As others mentioned, I might avoid the "in-house" provisioning. Rather than getting all those frozen meals I might prefer to go into town every couple of days and get what we need. And you might consider getting block ice instead of using the refrigeration. We had to run the diesel for hours a day even while sailing to keep the frig cool. I prefer not to hear the motor while I'm sailing. I wish that they would insist on using holding tanks in spite of the hassle. There are probably a thousand charter boats in those beuatiful waters and we're all pumping our stuff directly into the blue...I don't get it. I'm assuming that the boats in the USVI require the use of the tanks. -take the time to just stop somewhere offshore, turn everything off and jump into the great water (while someone is still aboard, ok). It was easy to get into a "lets get to the next spot" mentality yet the best times we had is when we just shut it down out in the channel and chilled for a couple of hours. Bon Voyage
 
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b393capt

No Worries

I have been to BVI on four occations. The first was a sailing class in January 2002 on a 50 foot Beneteau, and we intentionally anchored many places because it was a class. We had numerous challanges doing that, I recall Jost Van Dyke we came in quite late in the afternoon, and spend 2 hours finding some holding ground. The primary challange, was that after we were done setting the anchor in what we thought was 10 foot depth, the water was 40+ feet deep after dragging two boat lengths, and we didnt have enough chain for the desires scope. Later I would learn, we had it good, the Islands around St. Martin have real anchoring challanges. I do recall specifically that at Marina Cay, on multiple trips, boats at anchored draged and collided with boats on the moorings, and nowhere else was a problem. The next three BVI trips were during the Christmas - New Year breaks, and we never failed to find a mooring over a total of 18 nights, mostly because we were religious about getting to our destination by 2pm, and the beach bar by 3pm. We did have Christmas Winds each year, never a problem for the sailboat, but was a little rough on the crew as the winds would make the dinghy rides a fairly wet experience many nights. On my last BVI trip I got the large dinghy, and found a big improvement ... until it was stolen. Sadly, bring 3 locks and a steel cable, to discourage thiefs. My theory on Provisioning ... you can do it better yourself in Tortola, and supplement at many places along the way, but that first shopping trip is one hell of a backache. To compromise, I provision on the website for the heavy items (water, soda, fruit juice, beer, alcohol (except wine ... cant recognize the brands), mixers, etc.), bulky paper products (towels, etc.), non-parishables (cereral, katsup, can goods, etc.). Then on arrival we shop at the supermarket for everthing else and have a managable load of stuff to walk across the docks onto the boat. Kids bored ... easy fix. Only sail 3-4 hours per day, and plan activities on the island you go to. There is a web site for GPS treasure hunts (www.geocaching.com) you can do in the BVI, and lots of other places, I brought along that info and a handheld GPS for the kids ... never got used even though they were looking forward to it, they just found other stuff to do. Enjoy.
 
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Andy

Worst sailing in the world-don't do it!

After that headline everyone thinks I'm bonkers. Actually I just SO JEALOUS! Not that you are going and I'm not, but that airfare to BVI from NYC is so cheap! Try flying out off the midwest without a major hub! Yeah, I'm done with recommending the BVI. Nobody else should go. For the sake of sailing do not tell anyone with a powerboat how much fun you had. Lets keep it secret! All in good fun with an oz. of truth. Okay, one hint. Provisioning. Find Bobby's Market Internet site. Custom provisioning in advance. Day of the show, they deliver the goods to the dock and you put them in the boat.
 
Mar 21, 2005
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Hunter 23.5 Lake Keowee, SC
We took a hard case with food

We have a hard case piece of luggage we use just for food. We brought stuff we knew the kids would want, but couldn't find in BVI. Things like single serve mac&Cheese, single serve koolaid, and specific cereals, and snack bars. Like somebody else said, we sailed in the morning to a destination, and spent the afternoon playing, kayaking, snorkling, and going ashore. That way, we always got a mooring ball in a good spot for the kids. We do bring a laptop, small speakers and DVD's. The kids would stay on board and we would make them dinner, then we would go ashore and have some adult time. When you take kids, it is ALL about the kids.
 
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Tom Woodcock

BVI

My wife and I spent Christmas week in the British Virgin Islands. It was just a supper trip. We chartered through Conch Charters. The people who run Conch Charters are just great. They will do just about anything to make your trip a real pleasure. I agree with what everone has said about provisioning. We went to Bobby's market and did ours. Plenty of mooring balls. We never had to anchor. We stayed on the BVI side to avoid the hassle. The winds ran between 15 and 20 knots everyday. Made for great sailing. If want to talk more about our trip I would be happy to. You can get me at ttwoodcock@comcast.net. Have a great trip.
 
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Bob F

Great Time

I went thru TMM, and would recommend them. Pretty easy to deal with. Catarman was is great condition. There is a good size grocery store in Tortola, get your staple there. We went the first week in June, rates were lower and we had no problem with finding moorings. My kids have told me it was the "best" vacation we done. Bob.
 
Jun 9, 2004
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Hunter 40.5 Bayfield, WI
Check this out...

There is another forum that is dedicated to people who travel in the BVI's and many of them sailboat charters. It is traveltalkonline.com. Just select the BVI forum. I'd start out by reading current posts and checking out the trip report archives. It is a very active forum and people are always happy to answer questions. I was there two years ago and loved it. The weather is almost always good but keep in mind that August through the end of October is definately down time there. Many places are closed. Some of the lower priced months are November, part of December and January. February, March and the early part of April are high season and consequently rates are higher. Anyway, go and have a great time!
 
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