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Jay Hill

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Rick, I think I purposely left out all the "gorey" details of the port visits. Oh my is America a tame bunch of lame party wannabe's. Saw things in the PI that I would not repeat in a porno chat room (if those exist). Of course, PI ain't got nothin' on Thailand; some people will do anything for money, no? Real shame too. Oh well, maybe we can sit back and look at the videos or a brew or two someday. Greg, I tweren't in the Navy that long ago. My stint was from 84-93. Actually I was a "brown shoe" sailor. Aviation type, but still ship's company. I was an Aviation Electronics Technician (AT2) enlisted (I work for a living.) I worked on the automatic test equipment that tested all those little black boxes; still had the occassional vacuum tube and analog equipment, but mostly digital age. Lots of reel to reel; they loved that stuff for a long time. Pain in the butt to calibrate though. Good thing we don't need reel to reel on a cruiser sailboat, huh?! What can the Enterprise do? Well, I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you. :) With the exception of jet racing boats, and a few military hydrofoils, Enterprise was the fastest ship on the planet; at least until the USS Harry S. Truman CVN-75 was commissioned. Somehow they got the speed up over...ooops....almost spilled the beans. Well, let's put it this way, a sailing vessel would have to have a waterline of 2,704 feet to even have the theoretical capability of the same speed. There, that ought to be obvious enough. Imagine the canvas on that bad boy, huh? You mentioned "scrubbing the wake" and it reminded me of a bit of unclassified intelligence we intercepted during my second cruise in the Indian Ocean (I.O. for the sailors). As on almost all Navy craft at sea, there are always a few folks on board that can translate almost any language. We caught an SSB "conversation" in Czech/Russian that said they lost us over the horizon in the night. Their commander said to stay where they were and wait until first light, the wake disturbance would still be there and they could follow again. Many other times, we would get aerial photographs of ships' wakes doing S-curves trying to find a carrier's wake. It's a game we used to play; warfare without electronics. I can only remember one time the Ruskies won the war game; they used almost 20 subs positioned at 14 nm apart so they could get line-of-sight morse on their periscope transmitters. They were able to keep in touch and they just sat there waiting for a carrier to "cruise" by. They radioed us in the night and we had to "roll over and play dead". The next morning the entire ship got to wave at 5 Russian subs and thier crews as they paraded by. Pretty cool day. That would probably make a great movie: All the Stuff No One Knows About dedicated to all the little "games" countries play with taxpayer's dollars (or rubles). Well, enough for now; more on Saturday, no?
 
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Jay Hill

Oh yeah, one more tidbit...

...since Greg mentioned that some had it much worse than others. My longest at-sea period was 218 days. That was the worst it ever got, but now that I'm in corporate America (for a little while anyway), I think 218 days at sea would be welcome. I've just got a problem with the provisioning. On an aircraft carrier, the fresh milk runs out in two weeks, fruit in 5 weeks, meat in 12 weeks and fuel in about 16 weeks. Guess what they load first? You got it, the fuel. For those of you with water tank problems or "foul fresh water" consider the following: On a carrier there are no separate tanks for fuel and water, they are in the same tank. Approximately 6 million gallons of water resides at the bottom of the ship-long compartment with water makers working 24 hours a day to fill it. On top of the water floats approximately 4 million gallons of diesel/JP4/JP5 fuel used for several things. Aircraft, support equipment, and other ships. The carrier is nuclear so it doesn't need the fuel for propulsion, but many of the support vessels that stay with the carrier are run on diesel and they require refueling every so often. So, after two or three weeks, the other boat pulls up beside the carrier for an underway replentishment or "unrep". On occassion, we would have two vessels on starboard and two on port. The port side tanker would be fueling the carrier and another vessel to its port side. The starboard cargo vessel would be doing a double unrep of supplies such as FOOD, equipment, replacement parts, bombs, missiles, ammo, etc. to both the carrier and another vessel on its starboard side while taking on fuel from us. (these guys were really good.) All the while making 14 knots. During all of this, another cargo vessel or two would be 1/2 mile off the port and starboard sides with helicopters doing a vertical replentishment or "vertrep". These would drop pallets of equipment, stores, FOOD, etc. on the flight deck and they would immediately be moved to the elevators and into the hangar bay. What's this got to do with the water tank? Well, if we had just refueled some of the other vessels the fuel level gets low, so when they fill it, the action of the fuel being pumped into the compartment would cause a little mixing of the fluids. This also happened when the watermakers would go on the blink. (I wonder what a 10,000GPH reverse osmosis watermaker costs.) The water level would get low and the mid-float pump would start getting some diesel in it. It's a bit tough to drink water with your meal when you have to use 4 paper napkins to soak up the fuel off the top of it. A note for Peggie: Imagine giving advice on how to replace 27 12" thru-hulls used for the ships INTAKE seawater head-flushing system. The head system was pressurized to 24psi and the holding tanks were 14 compartments of average 1,000 cubic feet or approximately 28,000 gallons. The ship would fill this up in a 4 day port visit. Question to All: So, how many days provisions can you fit on YOUR vessel? What vessel is it and HOW long do you think you could stay at sea in it without reprovisioning or requiring an "unrep"?
 
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Greg Stebbins

H. Ross...

I've been racking my brains trying to come up with a real Celebrity Boat and I think I've finally remembered one. Many years ago, while visiting with my wife's childhood friend's family (follow that?) on Texoma, I saw H. Ross's boat(s). His place (complete with helo pad for jr.)was next to theirs and shared a small cove. The interesting part was his dock. It was ENCLOSED, A/C'ed and held among other things a fairly large sailboat. This was one tall enclosure. Money may not buy happiness but it CAN keep birds from craping on your deck. He actually said "Hi Y'all!!)as he went by. Does this count? Greg-
 
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Jay Hill

It Counts

and the structure is still there. Best looking lawn I've ever seen. Ever time I'm on Texoma my guests want to go see it. Really nice place.
 
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Paul Akers

Jimmy Buffett's new boat

OK, I got another one to top. Just got this in last night. There's some pictures of the new 90 foot Cheoy Lee Expedition that Jimmy purchased at the Cheoy Lee web site. You can tour the whole boat. >http://www.cheoyleena.com/web_files/main_files/expedition/90_expedition.htm
 
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Bill Sheehy

Bull

I am going to have to say bull on the one tank for water and fuel. I asked the guy sitting next to me who used to work on aircraft carriers in Bremerton Wa. He said that they would get water in the fuel but not by choice.
 
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Jay Hill

Bill, Ask him...

...HOW they got water in the fuel and vice versa. Of course, could depend on the ship too. Please remember the Enterprise was designed in 1958, built up to 1964 and commissioned in 65 or 66. Paul, There's a prize? Bummer, wish I'd known that. Nice boat; HOW many albums ya gotta sail...uh...sell to buy that boat?
 
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Bill Sheehy

A Guess

I remeber reading a story about WWII. It talked about putting water in the fuel lines when the boat was attacked. Maybe they didn't flush the lines out real good before using them for water. Also if you had fuel on top of the water everytime you got in a storm the two would mix.
 
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Jay Eaton

Performance Boats

I spent very little time in our Navy (AF Officer on joint duty), but while I was still flying for a living I had the chance to tour one of the Navy's patrol gunships (160++ feet LOA, used for river and coastal patrol in Vietnam). This little boat would get it on... it had a J79 gas turbine for a main powerplant. In my service, we had 8 of them hung under the wings. Our tourguide told us that the boat was knocked down in a typhoon to 80+ degrees and recovered - no wonder the helmsman's chair has seat belts! This is definitely a performance boat. I also saw the Intrepid (the last wood Americas Cup winner - twice) on the hard in a boatyard in Muskegan MI. Even out of the water, she is very impressive. NEVERMORE
 
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Greg Stebbins

The 13th Warrior

Movie has about 5 sec's of CGG of a Viking {??} long boat reaching in the open ocean in 20 foot waves. The crew is just lounging on deck enjoying the view. If it were real I be trying to sign up right now credit card smoking. Oh well. Anybody know of a Long boat for sale? prefer roller furling, arch, barbe grill and stern seats of course. Microwave and VCR optional.
 
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Mike Pajewski

Round the world under water

Yes gentleman, fast attack submarines are very fast, very sneaky and we get to see all the aircraft carriers, usually in periscope cross hairs. While in Toulon, we got to visit the pirate ship from the Roman Polanski movie "Pirates" The boat had been converted to a touring attraction and was in great shape. The John Candy movie is "Summer Rental" and it is responsible for getting my wife interested in sailing. We named our 23.5 after the movie. While not actually a boat, we got to see the house from "What About Bob?" Even though the movie takes place in Lake Winnipasaukee, NH the actual location was Smith Mountain Lake,VA. I was test sailing my 23.5 with our favorite dealer, Crazy Dave. I believe he supplied the sailboat that Bill Murray was tied to the mast on. Mike Pajewski H26 "Loon" H23.5 "Summer Rental" USS Cincinnati (SSN-693) USS Minneapolis-St. Paul (SSN-708)
 
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Paul Akers

...and the best food

I was on a supply ship in the Navy around 1970. The food that we carried to the Med (for the ships on station) was good quality, but the subs...they had better food than we buy in the market. Food is a big morale builder and, God knows, they need it on subs. Aircraft carriers obviously took the most food. They were resupplied every 30 days. For example, the carrier Kennedy (CVA-67) had 5200 men on board. We would replenish them by cruising parallel, about 120 feet apart (an awesome sight looking up to the bridge) for four straight hours sending full pallets of food (frozen, fresh, canned, dry goods) from six transfer stations across to them. It was an incredible amount of food.
 
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Allan Hadad

Sinister Soviet Ship

Did anyone see The Hunt for Red October on TV the other night? That sinister looking black ship that was leading the Russian submarine out to the ocean at the very beginning of the movie is actually the Coast Guard bouy tender Blackhaw stationed in San Francisco Bay. Or at least it was. I haven't seen it over at Yerba Buena Island in a while. Take the red stripe off the bow and hide all the red and green bouys it hauled around and it looked evil.
 
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Dick Vance

Bogey's Boat

Hanging around seaports and seaways you see the darndest things! Some of the sightings and "rides" experienced by the writers of these posts are awesome and I've seen my share of these beauties. Three that made memorable impressions on me were these: 1) Replica of the Mayflower that I got to tour when on display on the Potomac in D.C. in 1967! I understand its now in Plymouth. Its hard to imagine spending 2 months on board such a small ship with 130+ others, livestock, cargo and supplies and no watermaker!! 2) The African Queen. I saw Bogey's Boat at Key Largo in 1991 where it was still running and available for tourist rides. It may still be there. Just close your eyes and you could see Bogart pulling it through the muck with Kathryn Hepburn aboard! 3) Old Ironsides. The Constitution speaks for itself. Just keep your eyes open and you never know what you'll see out there! Dick Vance H-25.5 "Honey Bear"
 
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Dick Vance...

The Mayflower is in Plymouth, MA and is currently out of the water having its hull done. It will be back in the water for this summer. The Constitution ("Old Ironsides") was recently refurbished and was sailed last summer (maybe the summer before) for the first time in several decades from Boston to Marblehead, MA. The African Queen was purchased by a Connecticut investor and is now kept on the Connecticut River and is used occasionally to give rides. Being from the Boston area for many years, we often see these two boats in the news (not usually the AQ) because of their colonial heritage.
 
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Rick Webb

My Wife Reminded Me

Though not sailing and not on his boat. We had lunch with Willie Nelson one day when water-skiing on Lake Travis in Austin, Texas. We went up the Pedernales River and stopped for lunch at a place called "Monas" (best enchiladas I ever had) it is very close to his ranch and he is there frequently. In fact when Barbara Walters did her interview with him they did it on the front porch of the restaurant. I had met him once before in a grocery store outside of Austin he really is a nice guy, no pretense at all. I am not sure if he has a boat though.
 
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Andy

Little Nina in Little Rock

The replica of the Nina (from the movie 1492 I think) was making a US tour some years ago and was docked in Little Rock, AR! Amazing that a ship like that "discovered" the States! I was in awe of how tough it would have been to be a sailor then. Spoke to some of the crew, and the had a tough time getting use to the river pilot that was aboard on their trip up the Arkansas river. Seemed he refused to use a chart! That made them quite neverous-ha, and they had crewed across the ocean-each to his own! The pilot would probably hate to even be in salt water.! Anyone know where the Nina is now?
 
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Andy

More Nina

For more on that replica of the Nina, go to http://www.thenina.com/ Interesting story about the building of the Nina and her voyage up to today, and the 2000 tour. If your are near on of her ports, it is arecommended side trip.
 
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