C30 vs C320

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Mark Stillwell (stillwellm@worldnet.att.net

I have been sailing a StarWind 223 on Mark Twain Lake (NW of St. Louis). I love the boat but it is small for a family of 4 and a long weekend. I have been looking to move up to a C30 but have not had much luck finding one that is in good condition for the price I am willing to pay. Several pre-'85 that need a lot of work or post-'97 that are priced within $3,000 of a new boat. This last week, I ran across a C320 built in 1995. Asking price is $70,000. It's out of the water so I haven't had a chance to sail. I've sailed on several C30s. I'm interested in comments on the difference between the C30 and C320 and if the price is reasonable. Thanks
 
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Jack Gilmour

320 is a lot more boat

We recently sold our 27.5 foot Sun Yacht and spent considerable effort looking for a replacement. $70,000 sounds like a good price for a freshwater 1995 C 320. There is little comparison in the room or performance of the 30 and the 320. The 320 is more similar to the 34 and 36 than the 30. We opted for the 36 after much looking. Our 27 was hard to sell because everyone seems to want something bigger than that. When we bought it it was one of the biggest boats on Lake Rathbun. A concern that we had about the 320 was that in ten years when we want to sell it everyone will again be looking for somethng bigger. This concern would of course be greater for a 30.
 
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Gene Foraker

320 May be better but costs twice

The 320 is a great boat, but you should be able to get a good 30 for half the price of a 320. The only complaint I can think of the 320 is that it seems "shrunk" and some measurements are a little tight if you or your family are over 6 feet tall. I am 6' 2" and seemed to fit the berths better on my old 30. When my family of 4 outgrew the 30 (after 12 years) we moved up to a C-36.
 
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Stan Rogacevicz

The reply that mentioned shrinking berths on the c320 must have been referring to the forward one which IS small, becasue there is no comparison between a c30 and c320 aft berth. I sleep at the forward end of the aft berth with at least 6' 6" of room and at the very aft wall there is at least 6'. The c28, c310, and c320 are built with the new wide sterns. The c30, c34, and c36 have the classic pinched sterns even though the mkII's have the walk-thru. The c30 is 11" narrower at beam and at least 3 feet narrower at the stern than the c320. The c34 is the same width at beam and a couple feet narrower at the stern. The c36 is only 2" wider at beam and still at least a foot narrower at the stern. Also the c30, c34, and c36 overhang at the stern while the c320 carries the width almost to the waterline. This is why the aft berth on the c320 is about the same size as the c34 and c36 and actually I noticed on my friends new c36mkII that there is less body room between the mattress and celing, again because of the stern width. Another advantage of the wide stern is storage. When I drop my folded dingy into the cavernous port lazzertte it dissappears leaving room for another if needed. Under the starboard rear seat I store 11 fenders. Under the rear port seat I store 5 of the cockpit cushions (not the long ones) and 5 thowable cushion/preservers, and there is still room leftover in the middle. A much more realistic comparison would be the c30 to the c28mkII (my last boat) for roominess, seaworthyness, speed, and equipment. When you add in the fact that the c320 comes standard with a 12v refrigerator and anchor windlass you can see why there is a big price difference - more boat with more features. The c30 is a Great Boat and has a well deserved reputation as one of best Coastal Cruisers ever built. Stan "Christy Leigh" c320 #656
 
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Gene Foraker

Yes, Stan, I was talking about the V-berth

I was mainly refering to the V-berth being tight. As I said, I am 6' 2" and have every expectation that my 2 kids may grow to be close to that. My daughter is already 5' 11"and my son is still only 12 yrs. old. Mark mentioned he also has 2 kids. I have a number of freinds who love their 320's, but strangely enough, they are all of average or less height. On my 30 I could sleep well in every berth on the boat. (Though there are fewer and less private berths on the 30) The 320 IS a great boat and has a lot of features found on larger boats, but all boats are compromises. Just be realistic on what those compromises are.
 
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Steve Haas

I've owned both

I owned a 78 C- 30 from 95-99 and then moved up to a C-320 in 99. The C-30 was a great boat, but theC-320 is much better. It is significantly faster, lots more cockpit, fantastic rear cabin and overall a considerable increase in liveability and sailability. If you can afford the C320, go with it, you won't be sorry.
 
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