I want to install an electric bilge pump in my C22 and I'm curious what other folks have done. One question I have is about an outlet. I'm thinking of tapping in to the pre-existing scupper. Is this adviseable or should I make a second hole? Also, what size pump to folks install? I've read a number of articles that suggest 3000-3500 (plus a smaller pump...maybe a 400). Anyway, any thoughts will be appreciated.
C22 Bilge Pump Installtion
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Bilge pump
I use a bottomless plastic gallon milk jug and a small bucket. My boat #2226 is usually bone dry (had her 3 years now) unless we've been sleeping in it. We use a sponge and one of those dessicant boxes to stay ahead of the breath condensate. We used to have a bit of water in the port side locker where the keel locking bolt was. I ground that out and glassed it over since I never used the bolt any way. We now keep bread and Costco muffins in that locker! Campy
I use a bottomless plastic gallon milk jug and a small bucket. My boat #2226 is usually bone dry (had her 3 years now) unless we've been sleeping in it. We use a sponge and one of those dessicant boxes to stay ahead of the breath condensate. We used to have a bit of water in the port side locker where the keel locking bolt was. I ground that out and glassed it over since I never used the bolt any way. We now keep bread and Costco muffins in that locker! Campy
Be Careful with this One
Randy: This same question came up a few years ago. I replied as you did that you shouldn't need a bilge pump on a C-22. I don't have one on mine, and don't need one, as my bilge is also currently bone dry, now that I replaced the seacock that my cockpit drains go through. The problem with this question is that if the cockpit drains on a pre~1986 C-22 get clogged, possibly with leaves, the cockpit can fill with water, which will work it's way over the main hatchway, and start to fill the bilge. I never could have imagined this happening, but it did happen to someone, and it may have been the sailor that I wrote the response to. This spring, while I was getting my boat ready to go into the water, we rinsed out the cockpit and noticed that our drains had clogged. They were clogged with stuff from trees, like pine needles and other tree stuff, even athough our boat was well covered all winter. We nclogged the drains with a hose by spraying down one drain and then down the other, until the clog freed itself. I was surprised how easily the drains clogged. I had just replaced the hoses, "T", and seacock about a year ago. So, I'm always careful about what I write on this issue, because someone could leave their boat in a slip in the fall, and leaves could fill the cockpit and clog the drains, and then rain could fill the boat. Another part of this issue is how long a bilge pump can run before the battery in the boat goes dead. I'll let someone else answer that. Aldo
Randy: This same question came up a few years ago. I replied as you did that you shouldn't need a bilge pump on a C-22. I don't have one on mine, and don't need one, as my bilge is also currently bone dry, now that I replaced the seacock that my cockpit drains go through. The problem with this question is that if the cockpit drains on a pre~1986 C-22 get clogged, possibly with leaves, the cockpit can fill with water, which will work it's way over the main hatchway, and start to fill the bilge. I never could have imagined this happening, but it did happen to someone, and it may have been the sailor that I wrote the response to. This spring, while I was getting my boat ready to go into the water, we rinsed out the cockpit and noticed that our drains had clogged. They were clogged with stuff from trees, like pine needles and other tree stuff, even athough our boat was well covered all winter. We nclogged the drains with a hose by spraying down one drain and then down the other, until the clog freed itself. I was surprised how easily the drains clogged. I had just replaced the hoses, "T", and seacock about a year ago. So, I'm always careful about what I write on this issue, because someone could leave their boat in a slip in the fall, and leaves could fill the cockpit and clog the drains, and then rain could fill the boat. Another part of this issue is how long a bilge pump can run before the battery in the boat goes dead. I'll let someone else answer that. Aldo
Depends of course
I have two pumps.I bought the first one a 500 gph.After hooking it up and watching it run I decided that more was needed.I then hooked a 800 gph up also.The hoses run inside the hoses that vent the bilge.You can see them but you really have to look.This way they will pump out withtout making any new holes.My boat is moored and the cockpit fills up with rain water about 2 inches and then it drains out the newly installed scuppers in the transom.
I have two pumps.I bought the first one a 500 gph.After hooking it up and watching it run I decided that more was needed.I then hooked a 800 gph up also.The hoses run inside the hoses that vent the bilge.You can see them but you really have to look.This way they will pump out withtout making any new holes.My boat is moored and the cockpit fills up with rain water about 2 inches and then it drains out the newly installed scuppers in the transom.
Aldo - good point
My C22 is a 1986 and has the scuppers on the transom so no water buildup. But, if a person leaves their boat unattended long enough for the drains to get clogged and then fill up the coskpit enough for water to enter the cabin they are asking for trouble no matter what!
My C22 is a 1986 and has the scuppers on the transom so no water buildup. But, if a person leaves their boat unattended long enough for the drains to get clogged and then fill up the coskpit enough for water to enter the cabin they are asking for trouble no matter what!
Cockpit Drains!!
For all of the older C22s with two cockpit drains, replace the drain hose "T" with a "Y". The "Y" will not plug up as easily & you can make up a small snake to unplug both drains. The "T" doesn't allow this. Regards, Bob B
For all of the older C22s with two cockpit drains, replace the drain hose "T" with a "Y". The "Y" will not plug up as easily & you can make up a small snake to unplug both drains. The "T" doesn't allow this. Regards, Bob B
cockpit drain
Drain holes on the older 22's have always been a problem causing cockpit flooding when clogged. Using a hole saw, drill two holes in transom, close to cockpit floor, install and seal PVC same diameter. Its simple and you can do it in about an hour. Now you have a safe self bailing cockpit and will prevent flooding.
Drain holes on the older 22's have always been a problem causing cockpit flooding when clogged. Using a hole saw, drill two holes in transom, close to cockpit floor, install and seal PVC same diameter. Its simple and you can do it in about an hour. Now you have a safe self bailing cockpit and will prevent flooding.
Older C22 cockpit drain system.
On my 80 C22 with the forward sloping cockpit floor we removed the original drain system entirely and glassed over the original through hull piping. Then we opened up the original drain holes in the floor large enough to install 1 1/4 inch PVc sink drain outlets and epoxyed them in. Under the floor we combined both drain pipes into 1 pipe and ran it out the port side of the boat above the waterline by about1 foot. It is entirely out of the way, and free of valves. I always launch my boat to sail but very often we stay out for 3 or more days and I've never felt the need for a through hull sea cock. Fast, cheap much safer than the original. Ray
On my 80 C22 with the forward sloping cockpit floor we removed the original drain system entirely and glassed over the original through hull piping. Then we opened up the original drain holes in the floor large enough to install 1 1/4 inch PVc sink drain outlets and epoxyed them in. Under the floor we combined both drain pipes into 1 pipe and ran it out the port side of the boat above the waterline by about1 foot. It is entirely out of the way, and free of valves. I always launch my boat to sail but very often we stay out for 3 or more days and I've never felt the need for a through hull sea cock. Fast, cheap much safer than the original. Ray
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