C 270 vs H 270
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This one is easy
1. Which one do you like better? 2. Can you afford it? You have a winner.... My guess is the catalina. Both boats are TOO SMALL... Get a 28 (which is still small, but not too small)...
1. Which one do you like better? 2. Can you afford it? You have a winner.... My guess is the catalina. Both boats are TOO SMALL... Get a 28 (which is still small, but not too small)...
Catalina 270
We had the Catalina 270 for six years, great boat.We towed it to the Keys a couple of years ago from NJ and stayed onboard for seven weeks.Great trip,no problems.We have moved up to a larger boat,but I would recommend the Catalina 270.
We had the Catalina 270 for six years, great boat.We towed it to the Keys a couple of years ago from NJ and stayed onboard for seven weeks.Great trip,no problems.We have moved up to a larger boat,but I would recommend the Catalina 270.
C270
You will find that the Catalina brand, as a general rule, will hold its value better than just about any other brand. There are lots of them out there, parts are easily obtained, they have great forums, and, if you really get in a bind, you can call the factory...try doing that with your Ford.
You will find that the Catalina brand, as a general rule, will hold its value better than just about any other brand. There are lots of them out there, parts are easily obtained, they have great forums, and, if you really get in a bind, you can call the factory...try doing that with your Ford.
Comparisons are subjective
Most people are in no objective position to judge definitively which is better - C or H although on a Hunter site, I suspect you'll get a clear consensus. Pretty close on price of new ones and equipment seems pretty balanced - some have better this vs. better that... In terms of value: Factually, a quick check on Yachtworld shows 7 pages of used Catalina 27s for sale from $18,500 to less than $5k and only 4 pages of Hunters from $20,000 - $8,000. I'm not sure this is statistically valid but it would appear there are less Hs on the market going for more money. It's irrelevent who makes more for purpose of this example. So much for Cats resale argument... Hunter factory suppport I know from experience is excellent. Bottom line - everbody has an opinion, usually biased, based upon what they have or had. Pick the one you like the best as they are both fairly equal. Don Illusion
Most people are in no objective position to judge definitively which is better - C or H although on a Hunter site, I suspect you'll get a clear consensus. Pretty close on price of new ones and equipment seems pretty balanced - some have better this vs. better that... In terms of value: Factually, a quick check on Yachtworld shows 7 pages of used Catalina 27s for sale from $18,500 to less than $5k and only 4 pages of Hunters from $20,000 - $8,000. I'm not sure this is statistically valid but it would appear there are less Hs on the market going for more money. It's irrelevent who makes more for purpose of this example. So much for Cats resale argument... Hunter factory suppport I know from experience is excellent. Bottom line - everbody has an opinion, usually biased, based upon what they have or had. Pick the one you like the best as they are both fairly equal. Don Illusion
It doesn't matter
Catalina is Great, no Hunter is better; blah, blah, blah. If you are comparing the purchase price and configuration of new boats of both brands, you will have to pay at least 7 years of a 15 year loan to get to a point where you can sell your boat for more than your loan pay-off. Resail value is a consideration, but only a small one. Take both out sailing and see which one you and your family like, with the options you want, with the closest support for you, at the lowest price. And by the way, Enjoy the process....
Catalina is Great, no Hunter is better; blah, blah, blah. If you are comparing the purchase price and configuration of new boats of both brands, you will have to pay at least 7 years of a 15 year loan to get to a point where you can sell your boat for more than your loan pay-off. Resail value is a consideration, but only a small one. Take both out sailing and see which one you and your family like, with the options you want, with the closest support for you, at the lowest price. And by the way, Enjoy the process....
Comparison
Don't want to beat a dead horse here, but Don, you only looked on the first page of Yacht World...your statistics are from that page only. Of course we are bias...we love our boats. Sometime when you get bored, get on a power boaters forum and say "Sea Ray is the best boat made"...you'll have 200 posts in a day half saying they love SR, the others saying they are over priced. Bottom line, Robby, is be sure you will be happy with what you get, 'cause it's a lot of money and something you will probably have for a long time...or at least until you want to move up!
Don't want to beat a dead horse here, but Don, you only looked on the first page of Yacht World...your statistics are from that page only. Of course we are bias...we love our boats. Sometime when you get bored, get on a power boaters forum and say "Sea Ray is the best boat made"...you'll have 200 posts in a day half saying they love SR, the others saying they are over priced. Bottom line, Robby, is be sure you will be happy with what you get, 'cause it's a lot of money and something you will probably have for a long time...or at least until you want to move up!
H270?
If you are talking about the new Hunter 27, I looked at one at the St. Pete boat show. Spartan interior and the standard 10hp motor is too small. Hunter makes some nice boats, but the 27 did not do anything for me. Take a look at both before you make up your mind.
If you are talking about the new Hunter 27, I looked at one at the St. Pete boat show. Spartan interior and the standard 10hp motor is too small. Hunter makes some nice boats, but the 27 did not do anything for me. Take a look at both before you make up your mind.
Henderson Design (H27)
Glenn Henderson (Henderson 30 amd SR MAX, etc, ) designed the new H27. My bet is the H27 will sail circles around the Catalina.
Glenn Henderson (Henderson 30 amd SR MAX, etc, ) designed the new H27. My bet is the H27 will sail circles around the Catalina.
Consider what is right for you
Match your boat to your sailing area. Things to consider is draft, the amount of wind that is normal to your area, and other factors that affect sailing. One issue that I didn't see is that most Catalina are masthead rigged and the new Hunters are fractionally rigged. I dare not touch that subject, but masthead rigs generally carry more sail (bigger genoa) so in areas that have light wind they are an advantage. Catalina and Hunter are pretty well matched. I have a Hunter right now but I am thinking about a Catalina 30 when I move up in size. They both are great boats, but the best boat is the one that fits you best!
Match your boat to your sailing area. Things to consider is draft, the amount of wind that is normal to your area, and other factors that affect sailing. One issue that I didn't see is that most Catalina are masthead rigged and the new Hunters are fractionally rigged. I dare not touch that subject, but masthead rigs generally carry more sail (bigger genoa) so in areas that have light wind they are an advantage. Catalina and Hunter are pretty well matched. I have a Hunter right now but I am thinking about a Catalina 30 when I move up in size. They both are great boats, but the best boat is the one that fits you best!
Neither: Buy used
The best advice I got when I was looking at new boats was to buy a bigger used one for the same money. Specifically, I was looking at new 25-footers, but was persuaded to look at used 30s -- I found an '89 C30 for what I was was thinking of paying for a new C250. Absolutely the right call -- more space for family & friends, sea-kindlier movement & more secure feeling when conditions get spirited (we sail Lake Michigan). There's a little more expense involved in dockage & storage, but if you get a relatively new & well-cared for used boat the additional maintenance isn't bad. It's as if I aready moved up without spending any more money. Let someone else pay for the big 1st year depreciation.
The best advice I got when I was looking at new boats was to buy a bigger used one for the same money. Specifically, I was looking at new 25-footers, but was persuaded to look at used 30s -- I found an '89 C30 for what I was was thinking of paying for a new C250. Absolutely the right call -- more space for family & friends, sea-kindlier movement & more secure feeling when conditions get spirited (we sail Lake Michigan). There's a little more expense involved in dockage & storage, but if you get a relatively new & well-cared for used boat the additional maintenance isn't bad. It's as if I aready moved up without spending any more money. Let someone else pay for the big 1st year depreciation.
Dave's Right
We have all been addressing your original question. However, I have purchased five boats in the past 15 years, all used. Not only do you get a pass on the first couple of year's depreciation, the boat will usually come with thousands of dollars of 'extras' that you'd have to go buy yourself if you bought new...PFDs, rope, anchors, bimini, Magma grill, stereo, wind speed/direction/depth instuments, bumpers, furler, compass, cockpit cushions and more.
We have all been addressing your original question. However, I have purchased five boats in the past 15 years, all used. Not only do you get a pass on the first couple of year's depreciation, the boat will usually come with thousands of dollars of 'extras' that you'd have to go buy yourself if you bought new...PFDs, rope, anchors, bimini, Magma grill, stereo, wind speed/direction/depth instuments, bumpers, furler, compass, cockpit cushions and more.
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